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	<title>Comments on: Nanosolar to build world&#8217;s largest solar cell factory in Bay Area (!)</title>
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		<title>By: VIPUL</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/06/20/nanosolar-to-build-worlds-largest-solar-cell-factory-in-bay-area/comment-page-1/#comment-813749</link>
		<dc:creator>VIPUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 09:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please send me all detail regarding NANO SOLAR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please send me all detail regarding NANO SOLAR</p>
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		<title>By: cesium62</title>
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		<dc:creator>cesium62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orion -- muliply by about 5.  PV watts have a capacity factor of around 20% or so.  :-)

How *long* will it take nanosolar to build a 430MW factory?  If the factory produces 430MW in 2007, then, yes, it may triple US PV production.  But if the factory doesn&#039;t finish ramping up until 2010, then it&#039;ll be a nice big factory but it won&#039;t dominate the landscape.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orion &#8212; muliply by about 5.  PV watts have a capacity factor of around 20% or so.  <img src='http://venturebeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How *long* will it take nanosolar to build a 430MW factory?  If the factory produces 430MW in 2007, then, yes, it may triple US PV production.  But if the factory doesn&#8217;t finish ramping up until 2010, then it&#8217;ll be a nice big factory but it won&#8217;t dominate the landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That being said... game over, especially when you throw available solar/renewable subsidies on top of it, then you will have net energy costs CHEAPER than traditional energy sources.

Not quite.  While being able to roll-print solar cells is an important milestone - on par with the Gutenburg printing press, IMHO - solar faces one serious hurdle:  the US consumes roughly 100 quadrillion BTUs of energy from all sources annually.  A quadrillion is a 1 followed by 15 zeros (usually:  The British quadrillion is  a 1 followed by 24 zeros but I&#039;m being charitable here).  This works out to roughly 3,352,449 MW of power.  It would only take ~7800 years for the Nanosolar plant to replace all other forms of energy but I&#039;m afraid that doesn&#039;t count as &quot;game over&quot; quite yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That being said&#8230; game over, especially when you throw available solar/renewable subsidies on top of it, then you will have net energy costs CHEAPER than traditional energy sources.</p>
<p>Not quite.  While being able to roll-print solar cells is an important milestone &#8211; on par with the Gutenburg printing press, IMHO &#8211; solar faces one serious hurdle:  the US consumes roughly 100 quadrillion BTUs of energy from all sources annually.  A quadrillion is a 1 followed by 15 zeros (usually:  The British quadrillion is  a 1 followed by 24 zeros but I&#8217;m being charitable here).  This works out to roughly 3,352,449 MW of power.  It would only take ~7800 years for the Nanosolar plant to replace all other forms of energy but I&#8217;m afraid that doesn&#8217;t count as &#8220;game over&#8221; quite yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Salamay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Salamay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now we can explore extracting hydrogen from these cheap panels which will be spread onto building materials, hills, parking lots, etc..  Therefore, we can explore on-site hydrogen into fuel cells for a 24/7 power scenario.  Good Bye, Utility companies, your game is over, at least within the next 10 years!!!  The 3rd world can also be economically financeable for investors to create power for remote villages worldwide powering refrigerators (to sustain medicines!, Mr. Gates) lighting and most importantly, computers.  To me, this 3rd coming of PV is truly awe-inspiring.  Thank you,Martin, you are using your money well!!!
Sam...NJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we can explore extracting hydrogen from these cheap panels which will be spread onto building materials, hills, parking lots, etc..  Therefore, we can explore on-site hydrogen into fuel cells for a 24/7 power scenario.  Good Bye, Utility companies, your game is over, at least within the next 10 years!!!  The 3rd world can also be economically financeable for investors to create power for remote villages worldwide powering refrigerators (to sustain medicines!, Mr. Gates) lighting and most importantly, computers.  To me, this 3rd coming of PV is truly awe-inspiring.  Thank you,Martin, you are using your money well!!!<br />
Sam&#8230;NJ</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if what they [NanoSolar] says is true, then the cost per kw will be on par with fossil fuels.  

That being said... game over, especially when you throw available solar/renewable subsidies on top of it, then you will have net energy costs CHEAPER than traditional energy sources.

There&#039;s the bottom line, period.

Also, it will subsequently remove a lot of the hurdles in production of other renewables such as hydrogen, where the biggest roadblocks were distribution points and the fact electricity used in production would still have ultimately been sourced from fossil fuels.  With cheap solar, the distribution AND manufacture of hydrogen can be very modular and 99% green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if what they [NanoSolar] says is true, then the cost per kw will be on par with fossil fuels.  </p>
<p>That being said&#8230; game over, especially when you throw available solar/renewable subsidies on top of it, then you will have net energy costs CHEAPER than traditional energy sources.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the bottom line, period.</p>
<p>Also, it will subsequently remove a lot of the hurdles in production of other renewables such as hydrogen, where the biggest roadblocks were distribution points and the fact electricity used in production would still have ultimately been sourced from fossil fuels.  With cheap solar, the distribution AND manufacture of hydrogen can be very modular and 99% green.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Graebner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Graebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Gallium Arsenide ... next wave. Spreading acres of arsenic doped material which could eventually leach into the soil and groundwater due to exposure and the elements (rain, hail etc.) does not sound like a very smart approach. At least Indium and SiGe avoid this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Gallium Arsenide &#8230; next wave. Spreading acres of arsenic doped material which could eventually leach into the soil and groundwater due to exposure and the elements (rain, hail etc.) does not sound like a very smart approach. At least Indium and SiGe avoid this.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Graebner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Graebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Gallium Arsenide ... next wave. Spreading acres of arsenic doped material which could eventually leach into the soil and groundwater due to exposure and the elements (rain, hail etc.) does not sound like a very smart approach. At least Indium and SiGe avoid this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Gallium Arsenide &#8230; next wave. Spreading acres of arsenic doped material which could eventually leach into the soil and groundwater due to exposure and the elements (rain, hail etc.) does not sound like a very smart approach. At least Indium and SiGe avoid this.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Lim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fantastic! Finally some good news. Now if only we could get  someone to come up with a great storage battery and figure out a way for superconductivity to occur at room temperatures. I live out in the country and I used to be able to smell pine trees almost all the time. Now it comes and goes. In reality, no one is going to give up their cars but at the same time we are burning all the fuel to move around the planet. These three things would go a long way into helping us solve the transportation problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fantastic! Finally some good news. Now if only we could get  someone to come up with a great storage battery and figure out a way for superconductivity to occur at room temperatures. I live out in the country and I used to be able to smell pine trees almost all the time. Now it comes and goes. In reality, no one is going to give up their cars but at the same time we are burning all the fuel to move around the planet. These three things would go a long way into helping us solve the transportation problem.</p>
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		<title>By: ALNRG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALNRG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Galium Arsenide solar conversion semiconductors are the next wave. Besides the copper indium there is indium phosphate and a host of other doping agents to change the specific band of the solar technology. All have big advantages of being very robust semiconductors and all have disadvantages of being very difficult to manufacture.  One thing is sure, they convert VC money in hype as fast as solar flux into electricity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Galium Arsenide solar conversion semiconductors are the next wave. Besides the copper indium there is indium phosphate and a host of other doping agents to change the specific band of the solar technology. All have big advantages of being very robust semiconductors and all have disadvantages of being very difficult to manufacture.  One thing is sure, they convert VC money in hype as fast as solar flux into electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Rutherford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Rutherford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many interesting solar start-ups out there.  Does anyone know anything about Solyndra?  Information is hard to come by.  Appears that it may be similar to Miasole (sputtered CIGS thin film technology)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many interesting solar start-ups out there.  Does anyone know anything about Solyndra?  Information is hard to come by.  Appears that it may be similar to Miasole (sputtered CIGS thin film technology)?</p>
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		<title>By: David Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Alison.  Two words the vc&#039;s can&#039;t resist are &#039;nano&#039; and &#039;solar.&#039;  It&#039;s good to get some perspective amidst the hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Alison.  Two words the vc&#8217;s can&#8217;t resist are &#8216;nano&#8217; and &#8217;solar.&#8217;  It&#8217;s good to get some perspective amidst the hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Chaiken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Chaiken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;This is significant because all solar cells until now have been made from clunky, crystalline silicon.

Not true.    For years amorphous silicon solar cells have been available from Energy Conversion Devices in Detroit and Iowa Thin Film.    The small solar cells on calculators and watches are made from amorphous silicon.

&gt;That&#039;s why you get these big old thick solar panels that some think are an eyesore.

Also not true.    Solar panels are big because you need a large area to generate a large power.   Unless efficiency jumps up (which is not something Nanosolar promises), then their technology will not change this fact.   Solar cells printed on foil can be lighter and thinner but you can already order such solar cells *right now* from ECD and Iowa Thin Film.

What Nanosolar is offering that is novel is a solar cell manufacturing technology that is all solution-based and does not require expensive vacuum systems.   This distinction has gotten, ahem, a bit obscured in the Merc&#039;s coverage. 

&gt;The resulting cells are efficient as traditional silicon cells, but can be manufactured at one-fifth the cost.

We&#039;ll know if they can make cheap, efficient solar cells that way when the first product ships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;This is significant because all solar cells until now have been made from clunky, crystalline silicon.</p>
<p>Not true.    For years amorphous silicon solar cells have been available from Energy Conversion Devices in Detroit and Iowa Thin Film.    The small solar cells on calculators and watches are made from amorphous silicon.</p>
<p>&gt;That&#8217;s why you get these big old thick solar panels that some think are an eyesore.</p>
<p>Also not true.    Solar panels are big because you need a large area to generate a large power.   Unless efficiency jumps up (which is not something Nanosolar promises), then their technology will not change this fact.   Solar cells printed on foil can be lighter and thinner but you can already order such solar cells *right now* from ECD and Iowa Thin Film.</p>
<p>What Nanosolar is offering that is novel is a solar cell manufacturing technology that is all solution-based and does not require expensive vacuum systems.   This distinction has gotten, ahem, a bit obscured in the Merc&#8217;s coverage. </p>
<p>&gt;The resulting cells are efficient as traditional silicon cells, but can be manufactured at one-fifth the cost.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll know if they can make cheap, efficient solar cells that way when the first product ships.</p>
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		<title>By: YY</title>
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		<dc:creator>YY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that the technology was invented by Chris Eberspacher (current VP of Nanosolar). Efficiency of its module is around 7%. Any comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that the technology was invented by Chris Eberspacher (current VP of Nanosolar). Efficiency of its module is around 7%. Any comments?</p>
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