Comments on: The venture capitalist’s Web 2.0 list http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:39:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: PeterC http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4817 PeterC Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:34:37 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4817 The Daily Telegraph(in the UK) noted a complete UK venture-backed report thats been published by Library House, based in Cambridge, UK. It covers all UK venture-backed companies, so by default should cover any and every web 2.0-like company... report @ www.libraryhouse.net/ukvb/ The Daily Telegraph(in the UK) noted a complete UK venture-backed report thats been published by Library House, based in Cambridge, UK.

It covers all UK venture-backed companies, so by default should cover any and every web 2.0-like company…

report @ http://www.libraryhouse.net/ukvb/

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]]> By: Peter Glyman http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4816 Peter Glyman Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:04:55 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4816 I agree with George. This is an interesting list and it's great to see the injection of venture capital into the Internet and technology sectors but this is hardly a web 2.0 specific list. Good marketing by PWC though...we're all reading the list looking for our favorite web 2.0 companies and some others we haven't discovered yet. I agree with George. This is an interesting list and it’s great to see the injection of venture capital into the Internet and technology sectors but this is hardly a web 2.0 specific list. Good marketing by PWC though…we’re all reading the list looking for our favorite web 2.0 companies and some others we haven’t discovered yet.

]]> By: Dan http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4815 Dan Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:58:46 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4815 What's with the crazy geographic groupings? Is it stupidity or some type of purposeful slight that puts "San Fran/Berkeley" within "Silicon Valley?" Berkeley is not part of any large census designation nor are their any companies on the list that are located in Berkeley. Oakland has about 4x the population of Berkeley and is the proper designator. What’s with the crazy geographic groupings? Is it stupidity or some type of purposeful slight that puts “San Fran/Berkeley” within “Silicon Valley?”

Berkeley is not part of any large census designation nor are their any companies on the list that are located in Berkeley. Oakland has about 4x the population of Berkeley and is the proper designator.

]]> By: Mark Evans http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4819 Mark Evans Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:45:46 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4819 <strong>Life After the Web 2.0 Party</strong> According to <a href="http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2006/07/21/the_venture_capitalists_web_20_list.html" rel="nofollow">Silicon Beat</a>, VCs have pumped $870-million into Web 2.0 companies during the first-quarter. It's great to see this much enthusiasm but the... Life After the Web 2.0 Party

According to Silicon Beat, VCs have pumped $870-million into Web 2.0 companies during the first-quarter. It’s great to see this much enthusiasm but the…

]]> By: Jeff Nolan http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4814 Jeff Nolan Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:47:29 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4814 Matt, I chomped on this data and am familiar with many of the companies, aside from what Peter and Brad have already said about the list itself I think this offers some compelling statistics that back up the notion that there is a lot of diversity in the startup ecosystem and on the VC side. Diversity not just from the standpoint of software sector, but also investment stage and geography as well. If you compared this list against Q1 2000 the differences would be stark. PWC needs to go back to the drawing board to make Moneytree more relevant, and I'd even lump VentureSource in with them on that point. Matt,
I chomped on this data and am familiar with many of the companies, aside from what Peter and Brad have already said about the list itself I think this offers some compelling statistics that back up the notion that there is a lot of diversity in the startup ecosystem and on the VC side. Diversity not just from the standpoint of software sector, but also investment stage and geography as well. If you compared this list against Q1 2000 the differences would be stark.

PWC needs to go back to the drawing board to make Moneytree more relevant, and I’d even lump VentureSource in with them on that point.

]]> By: Read/WriteWeb http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4818 Read/WriteWeb Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:58:41 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4818 <strong>VC Web 2.0 List: Big Money For New Media and Marketing Companies</strong> SiliconBeat has published a list of all "Web 2.0 companies" that received venture backing over 2005 and so far in 2006. The list was created by PricewaterhouseCoopers and the National Venture Capital Association. In the comments to SiliconBeat's post, ... VC Web 2.0 List: Big Money For New Media and Marketing Companies

SiliconBeat has published a list of all “Web 2.0 companies” that received venture backing over 2005 and so far in 2006. The list was created by PricewaterhouseCoopers and the National Venture Capital Association. In the comments to SiliconBeat’s post, …

]]> By: George http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4766 George Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:36:32 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4766 they should rename this to "investing cycle 2.0", cause that's what they are really trying to do. After five years of reduced VC investment activity, it appears that the cycle is again turning up, and PwC is trying to report that - it's just disappointing that they felt they had to try to ride the hype wave by calling it "Web 2.0". they should rename this to “investing cycle 2.0″, cause that’s what they are really trying to do. After five years of reduced VC investment activity, it appears that the cycle is again turning up, and PwC is trying to report that – it’s just disappointing that they felt they had to try to ride the hype wave by calling it “Web 2.0″.

]]> By: Matt Marshall http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4765 Matt Marshall Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:27:56 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4765 Folks, if your company is not on the list, and you'd like it to be, please leave info in comments. Or, if you are sensitive about the information, just email us at mmarshall at mercurynews dot com with VCW2O in the subject line and tell us under what circumstances we can use it (i.e., we can use the company's name, and mention that it has raised seed funding, but we can't list the exact amount, etc). Note that PwC has put "confidential" for those companies that have requested anonymity on particular data. We'd do same. Folks, if your company is not on the list, and you’d like it to be, please leave info in comments. Or, if you are sensitive about the information, just email us at mmarshall at mercurynews dot com with VCW2O in the subject line and tell us under what circumstances we can use it (i.e., we can use the company’s name, and mention that it has raised seed funding, but we can’t list the exact amount, etc). Note that PwC has put “confidential” for those companies that have requested anonymity on particular data. We’d do same.

]]> By: Matt Marshall http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4764 Matt Marshall Sat, 22 Jul 2006 07:05:36 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4764 Btw, I gave PwC a hard time about it too. Re "overstated," you should see their "Web 2.0" investment numbers for first quarter of 2002. They say more money was invested back then than during the most recent quarter of 2006. Now 2002 was before the term Web 2.0 was coined, and back before good old Friendster kicked things off. I told them they have serious methodology questions. Their response was that Web 2.0 includes the new wave of back-end infrastructure technologies which began getting funded after the Internet bubble burst, and which allowed the consumer stuff to thrive -- and that's why 2002 was so big. I asked for a breakdown of the 2002 companies, which I haven't seen yet. I told them they should separate the consumer companies from the back-end stuff, and produce two lists. They said their next step is to do just that (which I explain the extended entry; hope you saw). Btw, I gave PwC a hard time about it too. Re “overstated,” you should see their “Web 2.0″ investment numbers for first quarter of 2002. They say more money was invested back then than during the most recent quarter of 2006. Now 2002 was before the term Web 2.0 was coined, and back before good old Friendster kicked things off. I told them they have serious methodology questions. Their response was that Web 2.0 includes the new wave of back-end infrastructure technologies which began getting funded after the Internet bubble burst, and which allowed the consumer stuff to thrive — and that’s why 2002 was so big. I asked for a breakdown of the 2002 companies, which I haven’t seen yet. I told them they should separate the consumer companies from the back-end stuff, and produce two lists. They said their next step is to do just that (which I explain the extended entry; hope you saw).

]]> By: think in blog http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4767 think in blog Sat, 22 Jul 2006 04:48:59 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4767 <strong>Investment fad</strong> Leo en SiliconBeat el artículo "The Venture Capitalist’s Web 2.0 list" y me llama la atención porque se muestra la famosa imágen de logotipos 2.0. Esta nueva versión es 2.1, al añadirse proyectos ... Investment fad

Leo en SiliconBeat el artículo "The Venture Capitalist’s Web 2.0 list" y me llama la atención porque se muestra la famosa imágen de logotipos 2.0. Esta nueva versión es 2.1, al añadirse proyectos …

]]> By: Ian Delaney http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4763 Ian Delaney Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:59:35 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4763 To be fair, you'll get a different definition of web 2.0 from every 'expert' you talk to. "New stuff to do with the internet" seems to be the working definition here. I'm grateful to have all the information, even if the totals may be misleading. Good work, Matt. To be fair, you’ll get a different definition of web 2.0 from every ‘expert’ you talk to. “New stuff to do with the internet” seems to be the working definition here. I’m grateful to have all the information, even if the totals may be misleading.

Good work, Matt.

]]> By: Brad Feld http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4762 Brad Feld Sat, 22 Jul 2006 00:35:11 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4762 I completely agree with Peter - this is an awful list. It doesn't look like PWC bothered to run it by anyone that actually invests in these types of companies to help them with their classification. Just scanning the 2005 I could throw out at least 25% of the companies without doing any real thinking. Plus - I searched for a handful that I know of that didn't appear on the list. As a result, I'd say the macro numbers - which appears to be the point of the list (or at least the article - ala your first paragraph) is massively overstated. I completely agree with Peter – this is an awful list. It doesn’t look like PWC bothered to run it by anyone that actually invests in these types of companies to help them with their classification. Just scanning the 2005 I could throw out at least 25% of the companies without doing any real thinking. Plus – I searched for a handful that I know of that didn’t appear on the list.

As a result, I’d say the macro numbers – which appears to be the point of the list (or at least the article – ala your first paragraph) is massively overstated.

]]> By: Matt Marshall http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4761 Matt Marshall Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:20:49 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4761 Peter, I agree that there a lot of problems. At the least, though, it is transparent, and in those columns on the right explain what the companies do. Has anyone seen a better VC-Web 2.0 list? Peter, I agree that there a lot of problems. At the least, though, it is transparent, and in those columns on the right explain what the companies do. Has anyone seen a better VC-Web 2.0 list?

]]> By: Peter Rip http://venturebeat.com/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/comment-page-1/#comment-4760 Peter Rip Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:53:21 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/vc/2006/07/21/the-venture-capitalists-web-20-list/#comment-4760 This list is ridiculous. Web 2.0 is an investment fad, for sure, but this classification is pointless in its generality. Netli is a great case in point. We've been in Netli since 2002, well before "Web 2.0" was a marketing meme. Netli has Global 2000 customers who want high performance, secure access to their web sites all from over the world. Their customers are Dell, HP, etc., not exactly "web 2.0 companies". Last I checked Dell had a revenue model (today's earnings warning notwithstanding.) Service infrastructure isn't Web 2.0 any more than is semiconductor. This list is ridiculous. Web 2.0 is an investment fad, for sure, but this classification is pointless in its generality. Netli is a great case in point. We’ve been in Netli since 2002, well before “Web 2.0″ was a marketing meme. Netli has Global 2000 customers who want high performance, secure access to their web sites all from over the world. Their customers are Dell, HP, etc., not exactly “web 2.0 companies”. Last I checked Dell had a revenue model (today’s earnings warning notwithstanding.)

Service infrastructure isn’t Web 2.0 any more than is semiconductor.

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