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		<title>By: Joel Mannfried</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Mannfried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like a cool service. I might use it. But if they&#039;re going to charge after just ten messages, I really don&#039;t see the point. Maybe. Let&#039;s see what they do charge. If it&#039;s expensive count me out. Also, if I&#039;m the only one I know who&#039;s paying, then I&#039;m probably the only one using it also. I can&#039;t see anyone going through the trouble of signing up just to send ten free messages. I want to see it catch on. I don&#039;t feel like being the only one who sends messages this way. 

One cool thing about this: I deal with people in China all the time. They speak and understand English, but have difficulty reading and writing it.  This would be one hell of a way to communicate with them.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like a cool service. I might use it. But if they&#8217;re going to charge after just ten messages, I really don&#8217;t see the point. Maybe. Let&#8217;s see what they do charge. If it&#8217;s expensive count me out. Also, if I&#8217;m the only one I know who&#8217;s paying, then I&#8217;m probably the only one using it also. I can&#8217;t see anyone going through the trouble of signing up just to send ten free messages. I want to see it catch on. I don&#8217;t feel like being the only one who sends messages this way. </p>
<p>One cool thing about this: I deal with people in China all the time. They speak and understand English, but have difficulty reading and writing it.  This would be one hell of a way to communicate with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mother F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mother F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 04:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA!!  My mother has her own way of doing just this.  She waits until she has only 5 minutes before she walks out the door, calls me, makes a BITCHY BLOODY SPEECH (at whatever topic at hand is presently); then of course, &#039;oh, I can&#039;t talk must go now...on my way to &#039;such and such&#039;.  This way she gets to bitch at me and never do I have a chance to say anything back.  GRRRRR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA!!  My mother has her own way of doing just this.  She waits until she has only 5 minutes before she walks out the door, calls me, makes a BITCHY BLOODY SPEECH (at whatever topic at hand is presently); then of course, &#8216;oh, I can&#8217;t talk must go now&#8230;on my way to &#8217;such and such&#8217;.  This way she gets to bitch at me and never do I have a chance to say anything back.  GRRRRR</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5271</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to be amongst the few that see some great possibilities with this app. It&#039;s okay if it&#039;s not for everyone... The voice recognition feature is impressive, the ability to leave someone a non-intrusive message is very useful (especially if it&#039;s not urgent or you know the other person is in a meeting (think about it... how many times does someone send you an email then call you to tell you they just sent you an email? I&#039;d rather get the voicemail in two places.)

I don&#039;t always have everyone&#039;s phone number on me...but I have most emails at my fingertips at any given moment. IMHO it&#039;s easier to voice a coherent message from a cell phone than type it out for sms on it&#039;s keyboard if it&#039;s more than a line or two.

I also really like the fact that you can forward a message received to others (groups: family, friends, co-workers) and even download the wav file to repurpose it (podcasting, sampling, ?). Again, perhaps that&#039;s a niche market, but the best things embraced by the mainstream generally start out as deviations to begin with.

A little bummed about the low-usage level to where they start to charge. But with a decent laptop and/or a mic on your desktop system you could still make great use of this.

At least someone&#039;s trying to be creative.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to be amongst the few that see some great possibilities with this app. It&#8217;s okay if it&#8217;s not for everyone&#8230; The voice recognition feature is impressive, the ability to leave someone a non-intrusive message is very useful (especially if it&#8217;s not urgent or you know the other person is in a meeting (think about it&#8230; how many times does someone send you an email then call you to tell you they just sent you an email? I&#8217;d rather get the voicemail in two places.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t always have everyone&#8217;s phone number on me&#8230;but I have most emails at my fingertips at any given moment. IMHO it&#8217;s easier to voice a coherent message from a cell phone than type it out for sms on it&#8217;s keyboard if it&#8217;s more than a line or two.</p>
<p>I also really like the fact that you can forward a message received to others (groups: family, friends, co-workers) and even download the wav file to repurpose it (podcasting, sampling, ?). Again, perhaps that&#8217;s a niche market, but the best things embraced by the mainstream generally start out as deviations to begin with.</p>
<p>A little bummed about the low-usage level to where they start to charge. But with a decent laptop and/or a mic on your desktop system you could still make great use of this.</p>
<p>At least someone&#8217;s trying to be creative.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5270</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just used the service.  The only thing that impressed me was the TellMe voice recognition.  The service itself is not valuable.  I don&#039;t care what hte mkt stats are, it is not useful to send a voicemail to someone&#039;s email.  It would be useful if you could just leave a vmail on someone&#039;s real voicemail w/o having to actually dial into their phone.  I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just used the service.  The only thing that impressed me was the TellMe voice recognition.  The service itself is not valuable.  I don&#8217;t care what hte mkt stats are, it is not useful to send a voicemail to someone&#8217;s email.  It would be useful if you could just leave a vmail on someone&#8217;s real voicemail w/o having to actually dial into their phone.  I</p>
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		<title>By: Doug van Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug van Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt: Thanks for the mention. Just to be clear, the Core Mobility &quot;Vnotes&quot; product (sold as &quot;SMS Voice Messaging&quot; by Sprint) can deliver to any mobile phone that can receive SMS - on Sprint or off - and every recipient can reply. You only need to be a Sprint sub to originate messages.

We&#039;re seeing great traction with Vnotes at Sprint  - by the end of this year, just about every data-capable Sprint phone will include it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt: Thanks for the mention. Just to be clear, the Core Mobility &#8220;Vnotes&#8221; product (sold as &#8220;SMS Voice Messaging&#8221; by Sprint) can deliver to any mobile phone that can receive SMS &#8211; on Sprint or off &#8211; and every recipient can reply. You only need to be a Sprint sub to originate messages.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re seeing great traction with Vnotes at Sprint  &#8211; by the end of this year, just about every data-capable Sprint phone will include it.</p>
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		<title>By: Harshal Vaidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harshal Vaidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to telecommunications America is way behind Europe and Asian countries. In India you can enable the direct voicemail service for your cellphone. A small fee is charged. 

I&#039;m not sure why this will be a big business. Can somebody explain me ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to telecommunications America is way behind Europe and Asian countries. In India you can enable the direct voicemail service for your cellphone. A small fee is charged. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why this will be a big business. Can somebody explain me ?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt marshall</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5267</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MartinE,

Did you try it? I think you will like it. And yes, we may fall into the niche category of people are too busy for their own good, and for whom this service is targeted. There are times when I&#039;d like to leave a little voice message for people while I&#039;m driving, and to press one button, speak their name, and start talking is pretty easy. Now, regarding service, versus stand-alone business, you have a great point. See the comment above left by Brian McConnell about Trekmail, and link by Steve_Ray below it. Trekmail had a voice email service that worked exactly like this minus speech rec. It sync&#039;d with your Plaxo address book, and enabled you to send quick messages by voice. Nobody was willing to pay for it as a stand-alone product, so they sold out to Visto last year, and integrated into Visto&#039;s mobile email clients.

Now, this service is not linked with Plaxo (it is broader than that), and has voice recognition, which also pushes things forward.

But how many people are going to actually pay for this? I&#039;ve got a lot of monthly bills gouging me for this and that, and I haven&#039;t made up my mind whether the service is really compelling enough to make the cut. It&#039;s a great service, and may indeed only survive as a service offered by a larger company. We shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MartinE,</p>
<p>Did you try it? I think you will like it. And yes, we may fall into the niche category of people are too busy for their own good, and for whom this service is targeted. There are times when I&#8217;d like to leave a little voice message for people while I&#8217;m driving, and to press one button, speak their name, and start talking is pretty easy. Now, regarding service, versus stand-alone business, you have a great point. See the comment above left by Brian McConnell about Trekmail, and link by Steve_Ray below it. Trekmail had a voice email service that worked exactly like this minus speech rec. It sync&#8217;d with your Plaxo address book, and enabled you to send quick messages by voice. Nobody was willing to pay for it as a stand-alone product, so they sold out to Visto last year, and integrated into Visto&#8217;s mobile email clients.</p>
<p>Now, this service is not linked with Plaxo (it is broader than that), and has voice recognition, which also pushes things forward.</p>
<p>But how many people are going to actually pay for this? I&#8217;ve got a lot of monthly bills gouging me for this and that, and I haven&#8217;t made up my mind whether the service is really compelling enough to make the cut. It&#8217;s a great service, and may indeed only survive as a service offered by a larger company. We shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: MartinE</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5266</link>
		<dc:creator>MartinE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t anyone else think this is an idea, not a business? This is stupid if you ask me- I know they&#039;d never make a dime off of me.
What ever happened to business planning- you know, creating a viable means of making money from an idea? I just don&#039;t see it in 95% of the companies profiled here. Shouldn&#039;t SB take a little more critical view of this stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone else think this is an idea, not a business? This is stupid if you ask me- I know they&#8217;d never make a dime off of me.<br />
What ever happened to business planning- you know, creating a viable means of making money from an idea? I just don&#8217;t see it in 95% of the companies profiled here. Shouldn&#8217;t SB take a little more critical view of this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Marshall</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5265</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is for the exec or other busy professional in the car. They are driving home, and thinking of things they forgot to tell people during the day, or people they are thnking about, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is for the exec or other busy professional in the car. They are driving home, and thinking of things they forgot to tell people during the day, or people they are thnking about, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Search Engines WEB Ûž</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5264</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Engines WEB Ûž</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This service will be especially helpful when dealing with others in different time zones - 


you can leave a voicemail pertaining to a matter - for them to retrieve later.  Sometimes you may think of a matter at an incorrect time to phone someone - and sometimes you simply forget to contact someone at the time you planned.


It is especially helpful to do all this from your PC - you may come  interesting news  you may want to share with a business associate who may be commuting - so you can just send a email or send a voicemail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This service will be especially helpful when dealing with others in different time zones &#8211; </p>
<p>you can leave a voicemail pertaining to a matter &#8211; for them to retrieve later.  Sometimes you may think of a matter at an incorrect time to phone someone &#8211; and sometimes you simply forget to contact someone at the time you planned.</p>
<p>It is especially helpful to do all this from your PC &#8211; you may come  interesting news  you may want to share with a business associate who may be commuting &#8211; so you can just send a email or send a voicemail</p>
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		<title>By: steve_ray</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5263</link>
		<dc:creator>steve_ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://w2.trekmail.com/discuss/msgReader$1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://w2.trekmail.com/discuss/msgReader$1&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://w2.trekmail.com/discuss/msgReader$1" rel="nofollow">http://w2.trekmail.com/discuss/msgReader$1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian McConnell</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/08/23/pinger-a-pretty-cool-vmail-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5262</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice idea. I had a little company called Trekmail that did exactly this back in 2000-2005. You&#039;d call in, record a message, it&#039;d send an MP3 file to the desired recipient or group. It sync&#039;d your phone book with Plaxo, and was a simple quick way to fire off emails by phone. It didn&#039;t have speech rec (but did have a simple speed dial/ivr interface), but otherwise it was the same idea.

The only problem is that it was a feature, not a business, and it was impossible to get people to pay for something like this. End users didn&#039;t want to pay $5/month on their credit cards, and the carriers wanted to keep most of the revenue for themselves. 

After giving up on trying to sell it direct to consumers, we ended up selling the business to Visto, which rolled it into their portfolio of mobile email services We considered ourselves lucky to recoup some of our investment, and were not particularly happy with the whole experience. 

Services like this look appealing, but the adsense model doesn&#039;t work, and getting customers to pay for point solutions like this is really hard. 

Not saying it&#039;s a bad idea, just that we had a nearly identical service with loyal users, virtually none of whom were willing to pay, which made it a cool feature, but a lousy business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea. I had a little company called Trekmail that did exactly this back in 2000-2005. You&#8217;d call in, record a message, it&#8217;d send an MP3 file to the desired recipient or group. It sync&#8217;d your phone book with Plaxo, and was a simple quick way to fire off emails by phone. It didn&#8217;t have speech rec (but did have a simple speed dial/ivr interface), but otherwise it was the same idea.</p>
<p>The only problem is that it was a feature, not a business, and it was impossible to get people to pay for something like this. End users didn&#8217;t want to pay $5/month on their credit cards, and the carriers wanted to keep most of the revenue for themselves. </p>
<p>After giving up on trying to sell it direct to consumers, we ended up selling the business to Visto, which rolled it into their portfolio of mobile email services We considered ourselves lucky to recoup some of our investment, and were not particularly happy with the whole experience. </p>
<p>Services like this look appealing, but the adsense model doesn&#8217;t work, and getting customers to pay for point solutions like this is really hard. </p>
<p>Not saying it&#8217;s a bad idea, just that we had a nearly identical service with loyal users, virtually none of whom were willing to pay, which made it a cool feature, but a lousy business.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry one more comment...it just hit me...this is good for phone sex...leave a sexy message for someone while they are at work...thats when hearing a voice is better than reading it as a message!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry one more comment&#8230;it just hit me&#8230;this is good for phone sex&#8230;leave a sexy message for someone while they are at work&#8230;thats when hearing a voice is better than reading it as a message!</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously...is this a joke...lets think through this.

1.  Most vaoicemails are relatively short - anything long and most people dont listen.  If you agree with that then why not just send an email or sms instead of an email voicemail which is essentially what this company does.

2.  When I call someone and hope to get their voicemail its for a few reasons a.  I dont want to talk to them but would rather leave a message b.  I want them to think I tried to reach them (here is where this model falls apart.  If I get an email voicemail from someone it will make me think - what they didnt want to talk to me live?)

3.  It would be much better if this service new the voicemail number for all of the networks and dialed that and let you leave a real voicemail for someone - I am sure this can be done.

4.  Why bother - 10 voice emails and I am paying for more - I dont think so...Ill just send an email or sms....

Can someone do a sanity check - $3mm raised...for what?  This can be developed by someone else fast but the bigger question is WHY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously&#8230;is this a joke&#8230;lets think through this.</p>
<p>1.  Most vaoicemails are relatively short &#8211; anything long and most people dont listen.  If you agree with that then why not just send an email or sms instead of an email voicemail which is essentially what this company does.</p>
<p>2.  When I call someone and hope to get their voicemail its for a few reasons a.  I dont want to talk to them but would rather leave a message b.  I want them to think I tried to reach them (here is where this model falls apart.  If I get an email voicemail from someone it will make me think &#8211; what they didnt want to talk to me live?)</p>
<p>3.  It would be much better if this service new the voicemail number for all of the networks and dialed that and let you leave a real voicemail for someone &#8211; I am sure this can be done.</p>
<p>4.  Why bother &#8211; 10 voice emails and I am paying for more &#8211; I dont think so&#8230;Ill just send an email or sms&#8230;.</p>
<p>Can someone do a sanity check &#8211; $3mm raised&#8230;for what?  This can be developed by someone else fast but the bigger question is WHY?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s now open for testing.</description>
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