Comments on: The Venice Project — a Skype for TV http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:25:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: GridNetworks « Technically Speaking http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-6724 GridNetworks « Technically Speaking Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:25:08 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/#comment-6724 [...] You can read the GridNetwork statement on their technology. Venice project was covered more indepth about 2 weeks back right here. [...] [...] You can read the GridNetwork statement on their technology. Venice project was covered more indepth about 2 weeks back right here. [...]

]]> By: VentureBeat » GridNetworks, new video streaming co., wants to steal Venice Project’s thunder – http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-6706 VentureBeat » GridNetworks, new video streaming co., wants to steal Venice Project’s thunder – Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:50:24 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/#comment-6706 [...] It aims to compete with the upcoming Venice Project, which is the company started by the Skype co-founders. Venice is supposed to launch in New York at the Television conference Thurs. or Friday. Venice Project is a peer-to-peer technology (hosted on a network of individual computers) for television viewing as simply as they did peer-to-peer for phones. [...] [...] It aims to compete with the upcoming Venice Project, which is the company started by the Skype co-founders. Venice is supposed to launch in New York at the Television conference Thurs. or Friday. Venice Project is a peer-to-peer technology (hosted on a network of individual computers) for television viewing as simply as they did peer-to-peer for phones. [...]

]]> By: Matt Marshall http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-6047 Matt Marshall Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:09:35 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/#comment-6047 Yes, Skype is an extraordinary hit. So was Kazaa, but not exactly financially. That's my point. They've already done so well, that it'll be remarkable if they pull off a second, extraordinary financial hit. Yes, Skype is an extraordinary hit. So was Kazaa, but not exactly financially. That’s my point. They’ve already done so well, that it’ll be remarkable if they pull off a second, extraordinary financial hit.

]]> By: Ryan Daigle http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-6046 Ryan Daigle Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:36:19 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/#comment-6046 Skype is not considered an "extraordinary" hit? Skype is not considered an “extraordinary” hit?

]]> By: Janus Friis: The Venice Project and Skype share the same core technology – 21talks http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-6043 Janus Friis: The Venice Project and Skype share the same core technology – 21talks Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:45:35 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/#comment-6043 [...] UPDATE, October 16, 2006 — Venture Beat indirectly answered to our questions. “The Skype co-founders Janus Friis and Niklas Zennstrom signed an accord with eBay when their company was acquired. Under that accord, they can not use Skype peer-to-peer technology to launch another business in the telephony area. So that leaves video.” So not combination possible. [...] [...] UPDATE, October 16, 2006 — Venture Beat indirectly answered to our questions. “The Skype co-founders Janus Friis and Niklas Zennstrom signed an accord with eBay when their company was acquired. Under that accord, they can not use Skype peer-to-peer technology to launch another business in the telephony area. So that leaves video.” So not combination possible. [...]

]]> By: Brian McConnell http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-6038 Brian McConnell Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:57:07 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2006/10/15/the-venice-project-a-skype-for-tv/#comment-6038 It seems to be that there are a number of technical issues that will be difficult to overcome in a true P2P video system. IP telephony works, occasionally, because the media stream has a small footprint relative to a typical connection (e.g. 40-80kbps versus several megabits downstream, several hundred K upstream). To do P2P video you need a lot more upstream connectivity, to the point that a typical user, if they agree to share their connection, does not have enough upstream connectivity to relay more than one or two medium resolution video feeds. It will be interesting to see if they can pull this off, but I think it will be difficult to get people to participate as much as skype. My gut read, unless they are really doing something like YouTube that is centralized, is that they are a few years ahead of the curve and should retry when FTTH is commonplace. It seems to be that there are a number of technical issues that will be difficult to overcome in a true P2P video system.

IP telephony works, occasionally, because the media stream has a small footprint relative to a typical connection (e.g. 40-80kbps versus several megabits downstream, several hundred K upstream).

To do P2P video you need a lot more upstream connectivity, to the point that a typical user, if they agree to share their connection, does not have enough upstream connectivity to relay more than one or two medium resolution video feeds.

It will be interesting to see if they can pull this off, but I think it will be difficult to get people to participate as much as skype.

My gut read, unless they are really doing something like YouTube that is centralized, is that they are a few years ahead of the curve and should retry when FTTH is commonplace.

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