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	<title>Comments on: Reason for Kleiner&#8217;s start in clean-tech: Bill Joy&#8217;s luxury boat</title>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/06/reason-for-kleiners-start-in-clean-tech-bill-joys-luxury-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-360713</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s a video of bill joy talking about cleantech:

http://www.scribemedia.org/2007/06/27/efficiencies-of-joy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a video of bill joy talking about cleantech:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribemedia.org/2007/06/27/efficiencies-of-joy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribemedia.org/2007/06/27/efficiencies-of-joy/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Create A Search Engine And Beat Google : Business Opportunities And Ideas</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/06/reason-for-kleiners-start-in-clean-tech-bill-joys-luxury-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-9607</link>
		<dc:creator>Create A Search Engine And Beat Google : Business Opportunities And Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reading the excellent Threadwatch this morning I came across a thread on How Would You Beat Google?Â which comments on a blog post by Rich Skrenta titled How to beat Google. He&#8217;s got an excellent point: Grow a spine people! You have a giant growing market with just one dominant competitor, not even any real #2. You&#8217;re going to do clean-tech energy saving software to shut off lightbulbs in high-rises instead? Pfft. Get a stick and try to knock G&#8217;s crown off. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reading the excellent Threadwatch this morning I came across a thread on How Would You Beat Google?Â which comments on a blog post by Rich Skrenta titled How to beat Google. He&#8217;s got an excellent point: Grow a spine people! You have a giant growing market with just one dominant competitor, not even any real #2. You&#8217;re going to do clean-tech energy saving software to shut off lightbulbs in high-rises instead? Pfft. Get a stick and try to knock G&#8217;s crown off. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Nerdy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Developer Links</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/06/reason-for-kleiners-start-in-clean-tech-bill-joys-luxury-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-9430</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Nerdy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Developer Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Beat Google, Part 1 [Skrentablog]: &#8220;Grow a spine people! You have a giant growing market with just one dominant competitor, not even any real #2. You&#8217;re going to do clean-tech energy saving software to shut off lightbulbs in high-rises instead? Pfft. Get a stick and try to knock G&#8217;s crown off.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How to Beat Google, Part 1 [Skrentablog]: &#8220;Grow a spine people! You have a giant growing market with just one dominant competitor, not even any real #2. You&#8217;re going to do clean-tech energy saving software to shut off lightbulbs in high-rises instead? Pfft. Get a stick and try to knock G&#8217;s crown off.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/06/reason-for-kleiners-start-in-clean-tech-bill-joys-luxury-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-6501</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beauty of alternative energy research/development rests on its large pool of various food resources and seemlingly advancing technologies in nano, gene, and computing etc., which help to leap frog generations of existing knowledge and technologies. The worms coming out this can smell and feel interesting and promising. KP etc. should venture the adventures and pave the way for more innovations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beauty of alternative energy research/development rests on its large pool of various food resources and seemlingly advancing technologies in nano, gene, and computing etc., which help to leap frog generations of existing knowledge and technologies. The worms coming out this can smell and feel interesting and promising. KP etc. should venture the adventures and pave the way for more innovations.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Miller</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/06/reason-for-kleiners-start-in-clean-tech-bill-joys-luxury-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-6500</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall correctly ION was building SOFCs. 
http://cleantechvc.blogspot.com/2005/05/ion-america-emerges-from-stealth-mode.html
http://www.ostp.gov/PCAST/agenda_9_20_05_files/Sridhar_IonAmerica_PCAST_20Sep05.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly ION was building SOFCs.<br />
<a href="http://cleantechvc.blogspot.com/2005/05/ion-america-emerges-from-stealth-mode.html" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechvc.blogspot.com/2005/05/ion-america-emerges-from-stealth-mode.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ostp.gov/PCAST/agenda_9_20_05_files/Sridhar_IonAmerica_PCAST_20Sep05.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ostp.gov/PCAST/agenda_9_20_05_files/Sridhar_IonAmerica_PCAST_20Sep05.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ranma Kovi</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2006/11/06/reason-for-kleiners-start-in-clean-tech-bill-joys-luxury-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-6496</link>
		<dc:creator>Ranma Kovi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hydroxyl compounds like ethanol do not yield enough energy compared saturated alkanes such as gasoline. Yes Natural gas which is a by product of petroleum extraction usually get wasted since we donâ€™t know what to do with it. Breaking C-H bond of methane is holy grail in Organometallic chemistry. Lot of work in last 25+ years nothing to show at room temperature. It has same side effects of higher order alkanes such as gasoline but generate lot more energy than gasoline. If Bloom Energy can do something with Natural Gas good luck, Chemists wasted life time chasing C-H bond activation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hydroxyl compounds like ethanol do not yield enough energy compared saturated alkanes such as gasoline. Yes Natural gas which is a by product of petroleum extraction usually get wasted since we donâ€™t know what to do with it. Breaking C-H bond of methane is holy grail in Organometallic chemistry. Lot of work in last 25+ years nothing to show at room temperature. It has same side effects of higher order alkanes such as gasoline but generate lot more energy than gasoline. If Bloom Energy can do something with Natural Gas good luck, Chemists wasted life time chasing C-H bond activation.</p>
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