(Update: There appears to be a settlement).

rockyou.bmpA U.S. district court judge has issued a preliminary ruling favoring Iconix in a suit alleging two of its former employees committed intellectual property theft in forming photo slideshow site, RockYou.

Iconix apparently nailed them by archiving their IM conversations.

PE Week’s Alexander Haislip has done the reporting (link is here, but it is subscription only), and digs up the details from the complaint. Here’s our earlier story on RockYou, about its business model, and why high-profile venture firm Sequoia Capital led a $1.5 million investment into the company, along with Lightspeed and other investors. The firms have been mired in the suit too, according to the report, which suggests they knew about the complaint before investing.

barbiedoll.bmpFrom our earlier story, you’ll see the company has seen controversy before, including allegations of hate-mongering, but the company responded to that. The site is filled with raunchy profiles such as the one at left.

Lance Tokuda and Jia Shen, the two co-founders made the mistake of corresponding via IM about their plans, and the complaint publishes archives Iconix claims is proof they planned RockYou while still at Iconix:

Tokuda’s IM name is “phdlance” and Shen’s is “mekateK” in the following alleged IM exchange:

phdlance: basically, a funny slideshow with email distribution support could make us viral

mekateK: huh… oh rms… thats [sic] scary. I can’t tell what ur [sic] talkin [sic] about… rms [rockmyspace] or ico[Iconix]… hehe

Apologies, but you’ll have to subscribe to PE Week if you want to read the rest of the juicy gossip, about the other archived conversations, including why they approached local entrepreneur Auren Hoffman, for example, who knew an exec at News Corp., which had a big acquisition budget — and who offered them a $5 million valuation straight up.

That, or we’ll get a copy of the complaint and post it here.

Update: Here are links to the complaint, to the IM conversation, and to the judge’s order, which comes courtesy of Venkat at Spamnotes. Let us know what you think. The evidence clearly suggests they plotted RockYou while on Iconix’s time — not good.

Other related links below in comments.

Also, check out attorney Todd Rumberger’s advice about what to consider when leaving a company to start a new one, and how to not get sued. Most people assume California is liberal in letting employees leave, but that’s not true in certain cases.

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  1. Trying to Be like Bill Gates » Reminder: When Ditching Your Company To Build A Competing Product, Don’t Discuss It On Work Computers said:

    [...] anyway Earlier this year, we noted that Yahoo had sued some former employees after they jumped ship (as a group) to another company — but discussed the move using Yahoo’s instant messenger before moving on — allowing Yahoo to claim that the group took trade secrets with them to the new company. While it seems particularly short-sighted to use Yahoo’s IM product while at Yahoo to discuss such things, if you’re using a company’s computers, it really doesn’t matter what tool you’re using. VentureBeat notes that Iconix has convinced a judge to issue an injunction against a startup, after Iconix reviewed instant messenger messages between two former employees while they were still at the company discussing their plans for the new company. In the messages, one of them even admits that he’s confused over which company they are talking about. It probably does happen all the time, but if you’re planning on jumping ship from your current company, you should probably find some other way to discuss it. Somthing common four Seasons gets $3.7 billion offer; Bill Gates among investors OregonLive.com - TORONTO (AP) — Investors, including Microsoft’s Bill Gates and Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, have joined forces with the Four Seasons Hotels’ CEO in a plan to take the hotel chain private for $3.7 billion, or $82 per share, in cash. The ofer was … This is pretty cool aOL Enhances Video Search (PC World) PC World - New developer program invites closer integration with search AOL functions.Did you know that World means all that relates to or affects the life of a person: He saw his world collapse about him.. This is also the fact experts caution against overfill of ethanol in portfolio Toledo Blade - The main analyst following Pacific Ethanol - which got an $84 million infusion from billionaire Bill Gates - recently lowered the rating on its stock to hold from buy. Agribusiness giant Archer-Daniels Midland Co., the biggest player in the ethanol …Did you know that Caution means a cautious action; a precaution: The climbers took the necessary cautions in preparing for the ascent. I also noted that [...]

8 Comments

  1. Larry Aragon said:

    Dear readers,

    Sorry we’re not giving away the entire story at PE Week, but someone (subscribers!) has to pay our salaries. You’ll find some more juicy (and FREE) details about PE Week reporter Alex Haislip’s run-in with RockYou’s Lance Tokuda here: http://www.pehub.com/wordpress/?p=210

    Cheers

  2. Larry Aragon said:

    Oh, and check out the impressive signage for RockYou’s one-year anniversary party — courtesy of Alex Haislip’s camera phone. The photo is posted on peHUB at: http://www.pehub.com/wordpress/?p=210

  3. Matt Marshall said:

    VentureBeat has just published a piece by Attorney Todd Rumberger (see contributors) with some tips about how to leave a company and not get sued.

    http://www.venturebeat.com/contributors/2006/11/16/how-to-leave-a-company-and-not-get-sued/

  4. nadine said:

    this seems backwards….how can the software writers be sued for intellectual property theft when they came up with the idea and wrote the code?

  5. Disinterested said:

    Rockyou and Iconix settled their differences. http://gigaom.com/2006/11/21/netpickle-iconix/#more-7386

  6. Daniel said:

    I couldn’t understand some parts of this article wins first round, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.

  7. V said:

    Amazing reporting.

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