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		<title>By: sohbet</title>
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		<title>By: William Bankert</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Bankert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the founder of ZANTAZ, one of the most successful start-ups to come along.  Unfortunately, I received very little for developing the concept, creating the business and business plan, researching the market, developing the market plan, investing my own money as well as a significant portion of my life.  I would advise entrepreneurs to enlist the service of professional assistance in negotiating you potential funding events.  There is a reason that I now use the term &quot;Vulture Capitalists&quot;.  On the other hand it would be almost impossible to get a star-up started without access to needed funds.  I just feel the VCs take much more than their share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the founder of ZANTAZ, one of the most successful start-ups to come along.  Unfortunately, I received very little for developing the concept, creating the business and business plan, researching the market, developing the market plan, investing my own money as well as a significant portion of my life.  I would advise entrepreneurs to enlist the service of professional assistance in negotiating you potential funding events.  There is a reason that I now use the term &#8220;Vulture Capitalists&#8221;.  On the other hand it would be almost impossible to get a star-up started without access to needed funds.  I just feel the VCs take much more than their share.</p>
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		<title>By: DAG &#8220;Coattail&#8221; Ventures is raising an $800M fund &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAG &#8220;Coattail&#8221; Ventures is raising an $800M fund &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some of the best companies, and has had the appearance of a steady focus at a time when some other firms have fallen apart. And despite appearances, we&#8217;re hearing DAG has not blindly followed these other firms; it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some of the best companies, and has had the appearance of a steady focus at a time when some other firms have fallen apart. And despite appearances, we&#8217;re hearing DAG has not blindly followed these other firms; it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Payday Advance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Payday Advance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddfrpxnei</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pankaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pankaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, great idea.  Such reputation engine would be huge.  In these days of freely available information on the web, not much info is available on the VC community except for a few word of mouth comments that are more subjective than objective.  Checks and balance must be instituted on the forum to make it useful.  There is a site http://www.rateavc.com/ that sort of does this but lacks the peer comment review functionality and ranking that is necessary to make it useful.  Matt, you should give a go on this idea.  This is a huge idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, great idea.  Such reputation engine would be huge.  In these days of freely available information on the web, not much info is available on the VC community except for a few word of mouth comments that are more subjective than objective.  Checks and balance must be instituted on the forum to make it useful.  There is a site <a href="http://www.rateavc.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rateavc.com/</a> that sort of does this but lacks the peer comment review functionality and ranking that is necessary to make it useful.  Matt, you should give a go on this idea.  This is a huge idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, great idea to create a reputation forum for the venture investors.  It is about time someone add some transparency to the murky VC community.  Entrepreneurs and LPs will both benefit from it.  However, instead of using Forbes Midas List as a starter, why not create a forum where the community add VCs to the list.  Readers can contribute to VC comment sections, and their fellow readers can rank/score the contributors on the degree of substance,not slander.  Those scores, in turn, further add weight to the credibility of their ranking... In the beginning there may be some kinks but I think over time the community will tune it in the right direction, a la web2.0 style.  A platform like that will be very important, and you will be doing a huge service to the entrepreneur ecosystem.  It will, hopefully, overtime wean out the bad apples in the VC community.  The current cash rich environment is making fund rasing way too easy.  

Lastly, you gotta be kidding if you think the Midas list has any credibility beyond its #1 and #2 VCs.  There is less intelligence in the ranking than Bush&#039;s pre-war Iraq briefing.  Dont forget, this is the ranking that actually gave David Spreng the #8 spot in 2005: http://www.crescendoventures.com/david_spreng.html
The same guy who has had zero positive exits in his current fund that was raised in 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, great idea to create a reputation forum for the venture investors.  It is about time someone add some transparency to the murky VC community.  Entrepreneurs and LPs will both benefit from it.  However, instead of using Forbes Midas List as a starter, why not create a forum where the community add VCs to the list.  Readers can contribute to VC comment sections, and their fellow readers can rank/score the contributors on the degree of substance,not slander.  Those scores, in turn, further add weight to the credibility of their ranking&#8230; In the beginning there may be some kinks but I think over time the community will tune it in the right direction, a la web2.0 style.  A platform like that will be very important, and you will be doing a huge service to the entrepreneur ecosystem.  It will, hopefully, overtime wean out the bad apples in the VC community.  The current cash rich environment is making fund rasing way too easy.  </p>
<p>Lastly, you gotta be kidding if you think the Midas list has any credibility beyond its #1 and #2 VCs.  There is less intelligence in the ranking than Bush&#8217;s pre-war Iraq briefing.  Dont forget, this is the ranking that actually gave David Spreng the #8 spot in 2005: <a href="http://www.crescendoventures.com/david_spreng.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crescendoventures.com/david_spreng.html</a><br />
The same guy who has had zero positive exits in his current fund that was raised in 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Sramana Mitra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sramana Mitra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, With the overinvestment in web 2.0, we will see a lot more of this kind of rollups, portfolio shuffling, rebalancing, etc. coming.

Sramana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, With the overinvestment in web 2.0, we will see a lot more of this kind of rollups, portfolio shuffling, rebalancing, etc. coming.</p>
<p>Sramana</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Dong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Dong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose if one reads my previous comment on ComVen without regards to my current context then one might interpret my post as an entrepreneur version of a video taped confession of me praising my captors with a hooded gunman standing behind my back.  So allow me to shed more light on where I am and share my current view on VCâ€™s.

Last fall I started a new web 2.0 company in the team collaboration space.  And for this new company I have chosen not to go the VC route.  Why?  They are asking for way too much (50% off the top) and frankly I can get it going without them (i.e. I don&#039;t need to kiss up to them).  The VC model was created from the era of the semiconductor days where an entrepreneur needs millions of dollars of startup capital before they can make a run at it.  That is no longer the case.  It is now possible to start a play, tighten the belts a little, and reach revenue.  The capital equation of the new startup world has changed.

So what is my current view on VCâ€™s?  I think they are a dying breed.  It is now easier than ever to start companies in the web space.  Open source tools and nearly free online services means you can become very productive quickly without needing lots of money to spend on development tools or infrastructre.  Hosting services are also next to free, and it will only get more reliable, faster and with more storage.  For those venture funds that can not adapt quickly and add more value to entrepreneurs, they will find themselves with lots of money but not able to participate in this new round of web innovation (sure, the semiconductors and the networking plays will still need startup capital).  VC served a useful function back-in-the-day, but the clock is ticking for them.

Finally, how I feel about the VC community does not necessarily translate to I how feel about the people in it.  There are some rotten apples out there for sure, who are opportunistic and would try to steal your underwear if they catch you in the shower.  But based on my past interactions a few years ago, I donâ€™t think Roland Van Der Meer is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if one reads my previous comment on ComVen without regards to my current context then one might interpret my post as an entrepreneur version of a video taped confession of me praising my captors with a hooded gunman standing behind my back.  So allow me to shed more light on where I am and share my current view on VCâ€™s.</p>
<p>Last fall I started a new web 2.0 company in the team collaboration space.  And for this new company I have chosen not to go the VC route.  Why?  They are asking for way too much (50% off the top) and frankly I can get it going without them (i.e. I don&#8217;t need to kiss up to them).  The VC model was created from the era of the semiconductor days where an entrepreneur needs millions of dollars of startup capital before they can make a run at it.  That is no longer the case.  It is now possible to start a play, tighten the belts a little, and reach revenue.  The capital equation of the new startup world has changed.</p>
<p>So what is my current view on VCâ€™s?  I think they are a dying breed.  It is now easier than ever to start companies in the web space.  Open source tools and nearly free online services means you can become very productive quickly without needing lots of money to spend on development tools or infrastructre.  Hosting services are also next to free, and it will only get more reliable, faster and with more storage.  For those venture funds that can not adapt quickly and add more value to entrepreneurs, they will find themselves with lots of money but not able to participate in this new round of web innovation (sure, the semiconductors and the networking plays will still need startup capital).  VC served a useful function back-in-the-day, but the clock is ticking for them.</p>
<p>Finally, how I feel about the VC community does not necessarily translate to I how feel about the people in it.  There are some rotten apples out there for sure, who are opportunistic and would try to steal your underwear if they catch you in the shower.  But based on my past interactions a few years ago, I donâ€™t think Roland Van Der Meer is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ANishanExec</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANishanExec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted there are high quality VCs that work well together with their portfolio companies and executives and founders. Of course this also means  resolving issues always on the up and up.

There are also plenty of venture firms and partners that simply don&#039;t behave that way. There is the Valley equivalent of the &quot;Stockholm syndrome&quot; where the entrepreneurs and executives don&#039;t want to speak candidly, honestly about their venture investors actions and decisions for fear it&#039;d ripple out and affect their future. And it isn&#039;t uncommon for VCs to threaten those executives and entrepreneurs, directly or indirectly, subtly or with force, to affect their future unless they comply. And if they don&#039;t comply, they can always make the next round of financing difficult. And so on.

In that light, Clark&#039;s puff story about Van der Meer is all to understandable and predictable. Expect to see a few like that every time a VC&#039;s track record is laid out for closer inspection.  Expect portfolio company executives, esp current portfolio and those seeking funding or about to, to chime up and cast their investors in glowing, sun-drenched light. 

Those with burnt fingers have a more credible story to share that we can all learn from. And ComVentures/Van der Meer, Worldview/Orsak, Crescendo/Spreng and their cohorts-in-crime have created enough smoke and train wrecks that entrepreneurs, executives, and importantly their LPs are already taking notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted there are high quality VCs that work well together with their portfolio companies and executives and founders. Of course this also means  resolving issues always on the up and up.</p>
<p>There are also plenty of venture firms and partners that simply don&#8217;t behave that way. There is the Valley equivalent of the &#8220;Stockholm syndrome&#8221; where the entrepreneurs and executives don&#8217;t want to speak candidly, honestly about their venture investors actions and decisions for fear it&#8217;d ripple out and affect their future. And it isn&#8217;t uncommon for VCs to threaten those executives and entrepreneurs, directly or indirectly, subtly or with force, to affect their future unless they comply. And if they don&#8217;t comply, they can always make the next round of financing difficult. And so on.</p>
<p>In that light, Clark&#8217;s puff story about Van der Meer is all to understandable and predictable. Expect to see a few like that every time a VC&#8217;s track record is laid out for closer inspection.  Expect portfolio company executives, esp current portfolio and those seeking funding or about to, to chime up and cast their investors in glowing, sun-drenched light. </p>
<p>Those with burnt fingers have a more credible story to share that we can all learn from. And ComVentures/Van der Meer, Worldview/Orsak, Crescendo/Spreng and their cohorts-in-crime have created enough smoke and train wrecks that entrepreneurs, executives, and importantly their LPs are already taking notice.</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good point by DEEPAK, where there is smoke there is fire.

Then again I do look forward to VentureBeat.com update on this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good point by DEEPAK, where there is smoke there is fire.</p>
<p>Then again I do look forward to VentureBeat.com update on this story.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@clarkdog
Dude i would say that please review your mind-set before bringing van-der-meer in your pocket once again :D .. couldn&#039;t you see the one after another debacles .. 1 or 2 are mistakes but if the pattern continues then .. all the best :)</description>
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Dude i would say that please review your mind-set before bringing van-der-meer in your pocket once again <img src='http://venturebeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .. couldn&#8217;t you see the one after another debacles .. 1 or 2 are mistakes but if the pattern continues then .. all the best <img src='http://venturebeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clark Dong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Dong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the post-bubble years I founded and ran a WiFi startup funded by ComVen (along with 4 other funds in the valley).  Roland Van Der Meer was on my board and ComVen with a lead investor.  As with many other startups during that period, my company went through some rough times, but I believe it is in those difficult times that we see the true colors of individuals (on both sides of the table).  Disclosure: I currently do NOT have a working relationship with ComVen nor with Roland, so I can speak freely and remain unbiased on this topic.

In the 3+ years that I worked with Roland, he remained a nurturing and honest board member.  Donâ€™t get me wrong, I didnâ€™t see eye-to-eye with him on many issues and he was every last bit a capitalist who had his fundâ€™s interest at heart.  But I felt he did so with lots of integrity and class.  As an entrepreneur and CEO, I did not feel that I had to constantly watch my back to keep from being screwedâ€¦Starting from term sheet negotiation (we were offered reasonable middle-of-the-road terms) all the way to the decision to ramp down the company (we considered and exhausted all viable options for the time).  I still remember after one particularly contentious session during the initial funding term negotiation, Roland told me that â€œDonâ€™t worry, for the rest we will just treat each other like human beingâ€.  He remained true to his words throughout our working relationship.

I donâ€™t know the details at FilmLoop or Firefly.  But I do know that itâ€™s much easier to cast judgment from the sideline when we do not have to deal with all the constraints of the situation.  Often after we know all the facts, the â€œrightâ€ decision becomes much less clear.  When a play goes south itâ€™s tempting to point fingers and grind axes, but speaking from my personal experience, Iâ€™m glad I had taken investment from ComVen, and of the many VCâ€™s I know, Roland in particular is a someone I would not hesitate to have in my corner.  Contact me (via LinkedIn) if you like to speak with me about this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the post-bubble years I founded and ran a WiFi startup funded by ComVen (along with 4 other funds in the valley).  Roland Van Der Meer was on my board and ComVen with a lead investor.  As with many other startups during that period, my company went through some rough times, but I believe it is in those difficult times that we see the true colors of individuals (on both sides of the table).  Disclosure: I currently do NOT have a working relationship with ComVen nor with Roland, so I can speak freely and remain unbiased on this topic.</p>
<p>In the 3+ years that I worked with Roland, he remained a nurturing and honest board member.  Donâ€™t get me wrong, I didnâ€™t see eye-to-eye with him on many issues and he was every last bit a capitalist who had his fundâ€™s interest at heart.  But I felt he did so with lots of integrity and class.  As an entrepreneur and CEO, I did not feel that I had to constantly watch my back to keep from being screwedâ€¦Starting from term sheet negotiation (we were offered reasonable middle-of-the-road terms) all the way to the decision to ramp down the company (we considered and exhausted all viable options for the time).  I still remember after one particularly contentious session during the initial funding term negotiation, Roland told me that â€œDonâ€™t worry, for the rest we will just treat each other like human beingâ€.  He remained true to his words throughout our working relationship.</p>
<p>I donâ€™t know the details at FilmLoop or Firefly.  But I do know that itâ€™s much easier to cast judgment from the sideline when we do not have to deal with all the constraints of the situation.  Often after we know all the facts, the â€œrightâ€ decision becomes much less clear.  When a play goes south itâ€™s tempting to point fingers and grind axes, but speaking from my personal experience, Iâ€™m glad I had taken investment from ComVen, and of the many VCâ€™s I know, Roland in particular is a someone I would not hesitate to have in my corner.  Contact me (via LinkedIn) if you like to speak with me about this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: ANishanExec</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANishanExec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Van der Meer&#039;s explanation of what occurred at Nishan is, predictably and understandably, entirely self-serving. To cast himself as carving out $15M for the common shareholders and to portray the founder as demanding 80% of that...does he expect of us to say &quot;how generous of you, ComVentures/Van der Meer!&quot; and &quot;how bad of the founder!&quot;???

Matt, fairness demands Nishan&#039;s founder and executives be provided an opportunity to respond to Van der Meer&#039;s characterization of what ensued at Nishan. In their absence lies and fallacies polished many times by the likes of Van der Meer will be passed on as truth. And that&#039;d be a disservice to entrepreneurs and employees and, indirectly, to the limited partners as well. Their response to Van der Meer will reveal how much ComVentures and Van der Meer pocketed out of Nishan, how much they would have made if they didn&#039;t wash out the common (and some preferred) shareholders, how much their crony CEO made for playing the investors tune and how long he stayed at the company to reap that reward in contrast to what the founder and executives, etc. This story needs air time and that will reveal ComVentures/Van der Meer for what they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Van der Meer&#8217;s explanation of what occurred at Nishan is, predictably and understandably, entirely self-serving. To cast himself as carving out $15M for the common shareholders and to portray the founder as demanding 80% of that&#8230;does he expect of us to say &#8220;how generous of you, ComVentures/Van der Meer!&#8221; and &#8220;how bad of the founder!&#8221;???</p>
<p>Matt, fairness demands Nishan&#8217;s founder and executives be provided an opportunity to respond to Van der Meer&#8217;s characterization of what ensued at Nishan. In their absence lies and fallacies polished many times by the likes of Van der Meer will be passed on as truth. And that&#8217;d be a disservice to entrepreneurs and employees and, indirectly, to the limited partners as well. Their response to Van der Meer will reveal how much ComVentures and Van der Meer pocketed out of Nishan, how much they would have made if they didn&#8217;t wash out the common (and some preferred) shareholders, how much their crony CEO made for playing the investors tune and how long he stayed at the company to reap that reward in contrast to what the founder and executives, etc. This story needs air time and that will reveal ComVentures/Van der Meer for what they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley entrepreneur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley entrepreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an entrepreneur, I empathize with the employees who worked hard and saw their dream fade away.  However, investment discipline requires that when the future looks bleak, you cut your losses early.  As an employee, it&#039;s better to spend 1year at a dead company than 3years at the same dead company.

The pain of this process, in my view, comes from the asymetry between VC employees(partners) and Company(employees).  If the company does well, the VC personally makes as much as a senior exec.  If the company folds (as a result of a foul $12M investment), the employees loose their job, struggle to make mortgage payments and daycare payments, while the VC continues to cash his $500K+++ salary.  For those slow at math, that&#039;s $20K every 2week, despite having made a stupid $12M investment.  So for investors, or &quot;financial intermediaries&quot;, it&#039;s a game of: face we win, tail you loose!

People see and feel this asymetry (or injustice) and feel it&#039;s not fair.  Entrepreneurs and VCs aren&#039;t in this game together...unfortunately.

If LPs aligned the interests of intermediaries more appropriately, investment decisions would be more rational, and people (the fodder) would have more stable jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an entrepreneur, I empathize with the employees who worked hard and saw their dream fade away.  However, investment discipline requires that when the future looks bleak, you cut your losses early.  As an employee, it&#8217;s better to spend 1year at a dead company than 3years at the same dead company.</p>
<p>The pain of this process, in my view, comes from the asymetry between VC employees(partners) and Company(employees).  If the company does well, the VC personally makes as much as a senior exec.  If the company folds (as a result of a foul $12M investment), the employees loose their job, struggle to make mortgage payments and daycare payments, while the VC continues to cash his $500K+++ salary.  For those slow at math, that&#8217;s $20K every 2week, despite having made a stupid $12M investment.  So for investors, or &#8220;financial intermediaries&#8221;, it&#8217;s a game of: face we win, tail you loose!</p>
<p>People see and feel this asymetry (or injustice) and feel it&#8217;s not fair.  Entrepreneurs and VCs aren&#8217;t in this game together&#8230;unfortunately.</p>
<p>If LPs aligned the interests of intermediaries more appropriately, investment decisions would be more rational, and people (the fodder) would have more stable jobs.</p>
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