Comments on: The RSS dilemma http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:43:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Startup Meme » Blog Archive Partial vs Full RSS Feeds-A Business Case http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-821698 Startup Meme » Blog Archive Partial vs Full RSS Feeds-A Business Case Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:52:48 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-821698 [...] [via] Tags:advertisement Feedburner feeds rss startup advice These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...] [...] [via] Tags:advertisement Feedburner feeds rss startup advice These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]

]]> By: life insurance policy http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-801765 life insurance policy Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:39:12 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-801765 Nice site and fine content Nice site and fine content

]]> By: Sean http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-62008 Sean Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:49:23 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-62008 As a clarification about Flurry, we do show the ads attached to a feed like VentureBeat (the banner ad is available as an attachment). However, the ad is not effective since you can't click through to the destination page. We plan to offer content providers the option to insert mobile-targeted ads into their feeds within Flurry in the near future. As a clarification about Flurry, we do show the ads attached to a feed like VentureBeat (the banner ad is available as an attachment). However, the ad is not effective since you can’t click through to the destination page.

We plan to offer content providers the option to insert mobile-targeted ads into their feeds within Flurry in the near future.

]]> By: matthew http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-58661 matthew Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:12:24 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-58661 trying to monetize your feed is pretty much a useless endeavor. rss ads generate negligable revenue and, as the quote above confirms, partial feeds do not drive folks back to the site. giving away your content via a full feed is basically giving away your content for free. that's exactly what rss was designed for. if your site is ad-supported, and you're worried about lost revenue due to rss, don't have an rss feed. trying to monetize your feed is pretty much a useless endeavor. rss ads generate negligable revenue and, as the quote above confirms, partial feeds do not drive folks back to the site.

giving away your content via a full feed is basically giving away your content for free. that’s exactly what rss was designed for. if your site is ad-supported, and you’re worried about lost revenue due to rss, don’t have an rss feed.

]]> By: Graham http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-52347 Graham Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:58:46 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-52347 Of course FeedBurner is going to come to that determination, because they are profiting off your decision to give full RSS privlages rather than just partial. There is no question that full RSS hurts the long-term viability of blogs. In the short-term it is good because it may entice more readers to read a submission and become engaged, but in the long-term blogs will need unique visitors and subscribers directly to their own site to remain viable. I like partial feed because it gives me the ability to know whether I want to read something in the smallest possible space (i.e. 1 headline)... if it is interesting enough for me to read then i don't mind clicking through. Of course FeedBurner is going to come to that determination, because they are profiting off your decision to give full RSS privlages rather than just partial.

There is no question that full RSS hurts the long-term viability of blogs. In the short-term it is good because it may entice more readers to read a submission and become engaged, but in the long-term blogs will need unique visitors and subscribers directly to their own site to remain viable.

I like partial feed because it gives me the ability to know whether I want to read something in the smallest possible space (i.e. 1 headline)… if it is interesting enough for me to read then i don’t mind clicking through.

]]> By: Gal Josefsberg http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-52235 Gal Josefsberg Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:32:02 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-52235 Thank you for this article. I just changed my blog's settings to full feed :) GJ http://www.60in3.com Thank you for this article. I just changed my blog’s settings to full feed :)

GJ
http://www.60in3.com

]]> By: Nick http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-52040 Nick Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:16:49 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-52040 Full text over partial, in terms of user experience. It's just frustrating that some sites choose to do partial feeds. Full text over partial, in terms of user experience. It’s just frustrating that some sites choose to do partial feeds.

]]> By: Andy http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-50780 Andy Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:45:30 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-50780 When faced with two similar feeds, and one is full text and the other just headlines, the choice is easy. That's why your own VentureBeat Jobs feed doesn't cut it (compare to TechCrunch's CrunchBoard feed). When faced with two similar feeds, and one is full text and the other just headlines, the choice is easy. That’s why your own VentureBeat Jobs feed doesn’t cut it (compare to TechCrunch’s CrunchBoard feed).

]]> By: Rick Klau http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-50640 Rick Klau Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:38:13 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-50640 Matt - Thanks for picking up the conversation. Wanted to clarify one point. You wrote: "Feedburner tells us, however, that many other readers actually prefer going to the site, because they see Flash and other video or image content that they don’t get through RSS." I don't think I made that point in the post you pointed to, and while it may well be true, our efforts at inferring subscriber intentions have so far been met with limited success. Which is to say, we don't know. But my own beliefs are that, as mentioned in the post, additional opportunities to click - not just a click on the item - almost always will increase clickthroughs, and more importantly, will drive additional exposure for your content. (I'm thinking here about Digg, del.icio.us or Technorati FeedFlares as examples.) Looking forward to continuing the conversation, and as we have additional info to share that will shed additional light, we'll make sure to let you know. Matt – Thanks for picking up the conversation. Wanted to clarify one point. You wrote:

“Feedburner tells us, however, that many other readers actually prefer going to the site, because they see Flash and other video or image content that they don’t get through RSS.”

I don’t think I made that point in the post you pointed to, and while it may well be true, our efforts at inferring subscriber intentions have so far been met with limited success. Which is to say, we don’t know. But my own beliefs are that, as mentioned in the post, additional opportunities to click – not just a click on the item – almost always will increase clickthroughs, and more importantly, will drive additional exposure for your content. (I’m thinking here about Digg, del.icio.us or Technorati FeedFlares as examples.)

Looking forward to continuing the conversation, and as we have additional info to share that will shed additional light, we’ll make sure to let you know.

]]> By: Joseph A. di Paolantonio http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-49841 Joseph A. di Paolantonio Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:44:42 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-49841 The primary reason that I click through to the web site from a feed, is to read comments or leave one... As now. Full articles are much more likely to draw me into the conversation. I generally don't subscribe to partial feeds. BTW, feeds can contain enclosures. That being said, the day an article opens in my feed reader [RSSowl] and automatically launches some flash spam with sound at full blast, will be the day that I'll have a new reason to unsubscribe from that commercialized feed. The primary reason that I click through to the web site from a feed, is to read comments or leave one… As now. Full articles are much more likely to draw me into the conversation.

I generally don’t subscribe to partial feeds.

BTW, feeds can contain enclosures. That being said, the day an article opens in my feed reader [RSSowl] and automatically launches some flash spam with sound at full blast, will be the day that I’ll have a new reason to unsubscribe from that commercialized feed.

]]> By: Louis Gray http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-49715 Louis Gray Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:50:00 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-49715 I believe the argument comes down to the goals of the site or blog. If the goal is to achieve widest dissemination of content, then full RSS feeds are perfect. An RSS reader is as good (or better) as a Web site visitor. If instead, you're for profit, and clicks are the goal, then you want the site visitor instead. As I've written previously, one of the biggest things missing from RSS is context and community. You don't always know who's commenting on what and what it is they are saying, straight from the feed. I strongly prefer full feeds as a consumer and as a publisher, but I'm not in the pennies for clicks and views game. I believe the argument comes down to the goals of the site or blog. If the goal is to achieve widest dissemination of content, then full RSS feeds are perfect. An RSS reader is as good (or better) as a Web site visitor. If instead, you’re for profit, and clicks are the goal, then you want the site visitor instead. As I’ve written previously, one of the biggest things missing from RSS is context and community. You don’t always know who’s commenting on what and what it is they are saying, straight from the feed.

I strongly prefer full feeds as a consumer and as a publisher, but I’m not in the pennies for clicks and views game.

]]> By: Neeraj Kumar http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-49702 Neeraj Kumar Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:45:43 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-49702 It's no debate for me. In my view almost 80% of the popular blogs have full feeds (gigaom, techcrunc, mashable are some of them). If I find that the author is providing partial feed only to get extra clicks then I just unsubscribe. Only in rare cases it is justified. It’s no debate for me. In my view almost 80% of the popular blogs have full feeds (gigaom, techcrunc, mashable are some of them).

If I find that the author is providing partial feed only to get extra clicks then I just unsubscribe. Only in rare cases it is justified.

]]> By: Enrique http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-49701 Enrique Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:39:56 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-49701 I get partial rss feed. I am enjoy it because I don't get my e-mail box full of e-mails from different blogs. If I see an article I want to read more about, I just click on that particle article. I get partial rss feed. I am enjoy it because I don’t get my e-mail box full of e-mails from different blogs.
If I see an article I want to read more about, I just click on that particle article.

]]> By: Jay http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-49618 Jay Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:31:16 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/19/the-rss-dilemma/#comment-49618 True, but I am more likely to unsubscribe. I don't have time to click on every feed. I only subscribe to feeds that give me all the information. If you are blogging to make money. The blog will get more readers if the full feed is made available. True, but I am more likely to unsubscribe. I don’t have time to click on every feed. I only subscribe to feeds that give me all the information. If you are blogging to make money. The blog will get more readers if the full feed is made available.

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