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		<title>By: BADADEO</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-638150</link>
		<dc:creator>BADADEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing that while being paid and funded to run a company, he had the time to start and operate this venture.  Any entrepreneur or executive at a startup knows that to be successful you need to give all your time, energy, and focus to building the company.  The fact he was doing this on the side is acknowledgment he was cheating the company, the company&#039;s employees, and his investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing that while being paid and funded to run a company, he had the time to start and operate this venture.  Any entrepreneur or executive at a startup knows that to be successful you need to give all your time, energy, and focus to building the company.  The fact he was doing this on the side is acknowledgment he was cheating the company, the company&#8217;s employees, and his investors.</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; TheFunded founder reveals his identity</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-636470</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; TheFunded founder reveals his identity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] covered the evolution of TheFunded from a site &#8220;for VC hatchet jobs&#8221; &#8212; at first, it didn&#8217;t let venture capital firms respond to criticism on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] covered the evolution of TheFunded from a site &#8220;for VC hatchet jobs&#8221; &#8212; at first, it didn&#8217;t let venture capital firms respond to criticism on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; VentureBeat points to VC firm reviews</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-571244</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; VentureBeat points to VC firm reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over the past several months, we&#8217;ve watched TheFunded go from being &#8220;the site for VC hatchet jobs&#8221; to a more balanced community. Many VCs have joined into conversations on the site, rebutting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] over the past several months, we&#8217;ve watched TheFunded go from being &#8220;the site for VC hatchet jobs&#8221; to a more balanced community. Many VCs have joined into conversations on the site, rebutting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Judgement Day for VCs at Entrepreneur 27 Singapore - Web 2.0 Unconferences, Websites &#38; Cool Tech from a Sunny Island at the Equator</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-122193</link>
		<dc:creator>Judgement Day for VCs at Entrepreneur 27 Singapore - Web 2.0 Unconferences, Websites &#38; Cool Tech from a Sunny Island at the Equator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 09:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the site&#8217;s history has been the entry of the VCs themselves to defend their reputations. See VentureBeat for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Hartenbaum</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-120863</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Hartenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mister Foo:

VCs use a lot of methods to make investment decisions, one being looking for how entrepreneurs respond to questions and whether they have thought of everything about the challenges their company will face.  The entrepreneurs know their companies much more than I, and my job is to determine if they are masters of the topic and have thought of everything.  If they fish for answers to my questions, then I worry they may not have thought of everything.  This is the basis for the questions, not for my desire to sound intelligent.  

I like to have co-investment partners work in presentations together, and a big benefit is it allows us to be more “tame” and let someone else ask the questions so that I can observe the interaction.  I don’t ask questions because I want to sound intelligent, because I am not.  I am just an ordinary guy.  Your assessment is correct, without the opportunity to allow a great VC like Andreas to ask the questions while I review the interaction, it is more likely I would pass.  These are techniques I use to make investment decisions and I am fine if you disagree with them.  In the end I have to make a decision if I want to invest and the entrepreneur has to make a decision if he wants my money.  Your observations are spot on, but I think you may not have realized all the reasons for how I run an investment decision process.  

Thanks for your comments.  I will try to explain my techniques to entrepreneurs in the future if they find them unsettling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mister Foo:</p>
<p>VCs use a lot of methods to make investment decisions, one being looking for how entrepreneurs respond to questions and whether they have thought of everything about the challenges their company will face.  The entrepreneurs know their companies much more than I, and my job is to determine if they are masters of the topic and have thought of everything.  If they fish for answers to my questions, then I worry they may not have thought of everything.  This is the basis for the questions, not for my desire to sound intelligent.  </p>
<p>I like to have co-investment partners work in presentations together, and a big benefit is it allows us to be more “tame” and let someone else ask the questions so that I can observe the interaction.  I don’t ask questions because I want to sound intelligent, because I am not.  I am just an ordinary guy.  Your assessment is correct, without the opportunity to allow a great VC like Andreas to ask the questions while I review the interaction, it is more likely I would pass.  These are techniques I use to make investment decisions and I am fine if you disagree with them.  In the end I have to make a decision if I want to invest and the entrepreneur has to make a decision if he wants my money.  Your observations are spot on, but I think you may not have realized all the reasons for how I run an investment decision process.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.  I will try to explain my techniques to entrepreneurs in the future if they find them unsettling.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFunded</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-119491</link>
		<dc:creator>TheFunded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a result of this article, we launched a new service to let venture capitalists tell their side of the story:

http://www.thefunded.com/submission/welcome

TheFunded should be a place for the entrepreneurs and the venture capitalists to meet. To be clear, we are a staunch advocate of venture financing and venture capital, and we believe that it is important for the venture industry to have a voice in this fast growing community. We are processing over 1 Membership application from CEO&#039;s every minute, on average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a result of this article, we launched a new service to let venture capitalists tell their side of the story:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefunded.com/submission/welcome" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefunded.com/submission/welcome</a></p>
<p>TheFunded should be a place for the entrepreneurs and the venture capitalists to meet. To be clear, we are a staunch advocate of venture financing and venture capital, and we believe that it is important for the venture industry to have a voice in this fast growing community. We are processing over 1 Membership application from CEO&#8217;s every minute, on average.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFunded: Venture Capitalist Feedback Site Lets VCs In</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-118525</link>
		<dc:creator>TheFunded: Venture Capitalist Feedback Site Lets VCs In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 10:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] became incensed after comments said he was &#8220;rude, arrogant, slow and vomit-inducing&#8221;. Matt Marshall wrote about the incident and said TheFunded was &#8220;turning out to be a useless [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] became incensed after comments said he was &#8220;rude, arrogant, slow and vomit-inducing&#8221;. Matt Marshall wrote about the incident and said TheFunded was &#8220;turning out to be a useless [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Foo</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-117685</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 06:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We pitched to Howard too. He seemed distracted and focusing on complete non-issues until Andreas Stavropoluos walked in, at which point the meeting became truly wonderful. Andreas liked our ideas and at that point Howard became quite &quot;tame&quot;. 

My impression was that Howard was asking these &quot;tough&quot; questions just to sound intelligent. He really did not have much of a clue. Without Andreas&#039; interest he would have just passed on us.

I&#039;m sorry to post this anonymously, but I cannot take a chance to offend a DFJ Board Member. Too much riding on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We pitched to Howard too. He seemed distracted and focusing on complete non-issues until Andreas Stavropoluos walked in, at which point the meeting became truly wonderful. Andreas liked our ideas and at that point Howard became quite &#8220;tame&#8221;. </p>
<p>My impression was that Howard was asking these &#8220;tough&#8221; questions just to sound intelligent. He really did not have much of a clue. Without Andreas&#8217; interest he would have just passed on us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to post this anonymously, but I cannot take a chance to offend a DFJ Board Member. Too much riding on it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFunded: Venture Capitalist Feedback Site Lets The VCs In</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-117615</link>
		<dc:creator>TheFunded: Venture Capitalist Feedback Site Lets The VCs In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] became incensed after comments said he was &#8220;rude, arrogant, slow and vomit-inducing&#8221;. Matt Marshall wrote about the incident and said TheFunded was &#8220;turning out to be a useless [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] became incensed after comments said he was &#8220;rude, arrogant, slow and vomit-inducing&#8221;. Matt Marshall wrote about the incident and said TheFunded was &#8220;turning out to be a useless [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Edenström - What.se</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-114129</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Edenström - What.se</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 08:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Howard Hartenbaum - Great reply! Made my morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Howard Hartenbaum &#8211; Great reply! Made my morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Yen Lee</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-109916</link>
		<dc:creator>Yen Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 04:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an entrepreneur, it&#039;s good to see a venue for entrepreneurs to share feedback. Having said that, it seems unfair that VCs can&#039;t respond to comments, even if they can&#039;t influence rankings.

I&#039;ll jump in directly on the Howard Hartenbaum &quot;hatchet job&quot;. Howard rejected us too, but I&#039;d say I appreciated his blunt style. While  I could see how his style might be perceived as arrogant or rude, I thought his candid and straight forward style was a very welcome breath of fresh air.  He let us know what his concerns/questions were, was explicit about how he was going to make a decision and was clear he didn&#039;t have to wait for another firm to validate us with an offer.  I agree with Mister X that Howard&#039;s &quot;here is what I think&quot; and &quot;have you thought of this?&quot; approach is quite remarkable in an overall environment where it&#039;s easier to keep stringing things along with opaque issues, more questions, and hazy timing. 

I won&#039;t hesitate to take my next venture to Howard (if he&#039;ll take the meeting ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an entrepreneur, it&#8217;s good to see a venue for entrepreneurs to share feedback. Having said that, it seems unfair that VCs can&#8217;t respond to comments, even if they can&#8217;t influence rankings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll jump in directly on the Howard Hartenbaum &#8220;hatchet job&#8221;. Howard rejected us too, but I&#8217;d say I appreciated his blunt style. While  I could see how his style might be perceived as arrogant or rude, I thought his candid and straight forward style was a very welcome breath of fresh air.  He let us know what his concerns/questions were, was explicit about how he was going to make a decision and was clear he didn&#8217;t have to wait for another firm to validate us with an offer.  I agree with Mister X that Howard&#8217;s &#8220;here is what I think&#8221; and &#8220;have you thought of this?&#8221; approach is quite remarkable in an overall environment where it&#8217;s easier to keep stringing things along with opaque issues, more questions, and hazy timing. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t hesitate to take my next venture to Howard (if he&#8217;ll take the meeting <img src='http://venturebeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-05-05 &#171; John&#8217;s musing</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-109033</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-05-05 &#171; John&#8217;s musing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 23:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VentureBeat » TheFunded, the site for VC hatchet jobs Anonymous commenting may be so great (tags: startups vc entrepreneur finance comment venturecapital) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ethan Stock</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-104357</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Stock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 20:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted an earlier variation on this comment six weeks ago on TC when TheFunded launched.  This latest news only confirms my beliefs.    

TheFunded completely breaks the trust models that make Silicon Valley work. It presumes that there is only an antagonistic relationship between entrepreneurs and VCs, and only a friendly relationship between entrepreneurs.  

Neither, of course, is true.  Microsoft and Intel had their tensions, but worked together well; and Intel and AMD like each other not so much, but substantively cooperate in various technical and industry forums.  VCs and entrepreneurs are a different value chain, with the same complex tensions.  

The &quot;trust model&quot; of the Valley is figuring out which VCs *and* entrepreneurs are good guys, and which ones aren&#039;t.  It&#039;s figuring out, on a completely separate axis, which ones know what they&#039;re talking about and can get things done, and which ones don&#039;t and can&#039;t.  

I am willing to have a very open conversation with a VC I trust about other entrepreneurs, and a very open conversations with entrepreneurs I know about VCs.  With people I don&#039;t know and trust, I am highly skeptical of telling them much of anything.  

TheFunded doesn&#039;t play into the reality of getting things done here any more than gossip sites play a meaningful role in getting Hollywood movies made.  At its best (and it is far from &#039;best&#039;) it would be idle entertainment only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted an earlier variation on this comment six weeks ago on TC when TheFunded launched.  This latest news only confirms my beliefs.    </p>
<p>TheFunded completely breaks the trust models that make Silicon Valley work. It presumes that there is only an antagonistic relationship between entrepreneurs and VCs, and only a friendly relationship between entrepreneurs.  </p>
<p>Neither, of course, is true.  Microsoft and Intel had their tensions, but worked together well; and Intel and AMD like each other not so much, but substantively cooperate in various technical and industry forums.  VCs and entrepreneurs are a different value chain, with the same complex tensions.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;trust model&#8221; of the Valley is figuring out which VCs *and* entrepreneurs are good guys, and which ones aren&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s figuring out, on a completely separate axis, which ones know what they&#8217;re talking about and can get things done, and which ones don&#8217;t and can&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>I am willing to have a very open conversation with a VC I trust about other entrepreneurs, and a very open conversations with entrepreneurs I know about VCs.  With people I don&#8217;t know and trust, I am highly skeptical of telling them much of anything.  </p>
<p>TheFunded doesn&#8217;t play into the reality of getting things done here any more than gossip sites play a meaningful role in getting Hollywood movies made.  At its best (and it is far from &#8216;best&#8217;) it would be idle entertainment only.</p>
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		<title>By: Harshal Vaidya</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-104273</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshal Vaidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 19:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run a website goolti.com which primarily targets public opinions on consultants which bring Indian people on H1 visas to work in the US. They&#039;ve caused a nightmare on the name of professionalism.

The site lets people rate these consulting companies. I&#039;ve always had a problem of validating the feedback of people who put opinions on goolti.com. However since so many people need it, such sites should definitely exist cos&#039; they weed the bad ones out for sure. In run, unfortunately they take in a couple of good ones down too. Howard, I guess, is this unfortunate one. But well, there is no better way out either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run a website goolti.com which primarily targets public opinions on consultants which bring Indian people on H1 visas to work in the US. They&#8217;ve caused a nightmare on the name of professionalism.</p>
<p>The site lets people rate these consulting companies. I&#8217;ve always had a problem of validating the feedback of people who put opinions on goolti.com. However since so many people need it, such sites should definitely exist cos&#8217; they weed the bad ones out for sure. In run, unfortunately they take in a couple of good ones down too. Howard, I guess, is this unfortunate one. But well, there is no better way out either.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister X</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/03/thefunded-the-site-for-vc-hatchet-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-104190</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 19:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s difficult to openly talk about these issues, and while I generally agree with the fact that there is arrogance on the VC side, in all fairness there is an equal amount of it on the entrepreneur&#039;s side. 

I met Howard for the first time early 2006. I was raising my seed round for our tech startup.  I had my laptop ready with my nice deck of PPT slides - Internet connection, overhead projector ready, coffee mug on the side, etc etc. Howard was about 10 mins late for the meeting, and when he arrived, the first question he asked was basically &quot;who are you and what&#039;s important to you in life&quot;. Clearly, I was a little surprised. We talked for about an hour - never got to the PPT. It was a heated, fun, open, not the kinds of conversations you typically have when pitching. I liked it. Liked the form (no BS, get to the point), like the content (he gave me lots of feedback), and liked the guy (as a human being). 

He eventually passed on the investment and we went with other VCs. Yet, he introduced me to some key press people and partners - without me asking for anything.

So yes, Howard shows up late at meetings. Yes, he asks pointed question that are sometimes destabilizing. Yes, he might appear arrogant at times. But of all the people the VCs that I&#039;ve met he&#039;s one of the few people who dares to challenge but also makes a genuine effort to suggest other ways. And that to me is pretty remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s difficult to openly talk about these issues, and while I generally agree with the fact that there is arrogance on the VC side, in all fairness there is an equal amount of it on the entrepreneur&#8217;s side. </p>
<p>I met Howard for the first time early 2006. I was raising my seed round for our tech startup.  I had my laptop ready with my nice deck of PPT slides &#8211; Internet connection, overhead projector ready, coffee mug on the side, etc etc. Howard was about 10 mins late for the meeting, and when he arrived, the first question he asked was basically &#8220;who are you and what&#8217;s important to you in life&#8221;. Clearly, I was a little surprised. We talked for about an hour &#8211; never got to the PPT. It was a heated, fun, open, not the kinds of conversations you typically have when pitching. I liked it. Liked the form (no BS, get to the point), like the content (he gave me lots of feedback), and liked the guy (as a human being). </p>
<p>He eventually passed on the investment and we went with other VCs. Yet, he introduced me to some key press people and partners &#8211; without me asking for anything.</p>
<p>So yes, Howard shows up late at meetings. Yes, he asks pointed question that are sometimes destabilizing. Yes, he might appear arrogant at times. But of all the people the VCs that I&#8217;ve met he&#8217;s one of the few people who dares to challenge but also makes a genuine effort to suggest other ways. And that to me is pretty remarkable.</p>
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