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	<title>Comments on: Flock still trying to take flight</title>
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		<title>By: Deal Radar 2008: Flock - Sramana Mitra on Strategy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deal Radar 2008: Flock - Sramana Mitra on Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Flock gets a share of revenue from searches that are directed to its search partners. According to VentureBeat, the company gets revenue from Yahoo! for displaying Yahoo’s search engine as the default option [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Flock gets a share of revenue from searches that are directed to its search partners. According to VentureBeat, the company gets revenue from Yahoo! for displaying Yahoo’s search engine as the default option [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Investors flock to Flock with a new $15 million round &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investors flock to Flock with a new $15 million round &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 04:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] percent while its revenue has risen by more than 400 percent. As we&#8217;ve reported previously, Flock makes money thanks to a deal it has with Yahoo to use its search technology. This is similar to the deal Mozilla&#8217;s Firefox has with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] percent while its revenue has risen by more than 400 percent. As we&#8217;ve reported previously, Flock makes money thanks to a deal it has with Yahoo to use its search technology. This is similar to the deal Mozilla&#8217;s Firefox has with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Budd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Budd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Software with an update service allows the company to have a pretty good ball park idea of how many active users they have. Of course, this number doesn&#039;t look as good as downloads, so you won&#039;t be getting it anytime soon.

Yours truly,
&quot;One blogger from the Flock developer community&quot;,
Former Flock employee (#9),
Lloyd Budd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Software with an update service allows the company to have a pretty good ball park idea of how many active users they have. Of course, this number doesn&#8217;t look as good as downloads, so you won&#8217;t be getting it anytime soon.</p>
<p>Yours truly,<br />
&#8220;One blogger from the Flock developer community&#8221;,<br />
Former Flock employee (#9),<br />
Lloyd Budd</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Eldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Eldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris: You&#039;ll see that in the article, I cited Firefox saying Mozilla made $55 million in 2005. In that same article (from May), the CEO guesses that the number of users is between 75-100 million. Another source put it at 85 million. I&#039;ve clarified that this is not downloads.

...which leads me to...

@Paul: The official counter counts every single download of any release since 1.0. Which means that since I&#039;ve been using FF since around 1.0, I&#039;ll personally account for a download per version through 2.0.0.4. 

So, anyone have a verifiable number of active Firefox users now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris: You&#8217;ll see that in the article, I cited Firefox saying Mozilla made $55 million in 2005. In that same article (from May), the CEO guesses that the number of users is between 75-100 million. Another source put it at 85 million. I&#8217;ve clarified that this is not downloads.</p>
<p>&#8230;which leads me to&#8230;</p>
<p>@Paul: The official counter counts every single download of any release since 1.0. Which means that since I&#8217;ve been using FF since around 1.0, I&#8217;ll personally account for a download per version through 2.0.0.4. </p>
<p>So, anyone have a verifiable number of active Firefox users now?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re at 370 million downloads and counting, Matt. There&#039;s an accurate counter at http://spreadfirefox.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re at 370 million downloads and counting, Matt. There&#8217;s an accurate counter at <a href="http://spreadfirefox.com." rel="nofollow">http://spreadfirefox.com.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, Hardin should check his facts too. if mozilla earned $2 per user as Hardin suggests, Mozilla would be making something near $200 million... i personally have never heard that they are making anywhere near that amount... have you??

google was the default search for mozilla and then firefox way before google paid mozilla any money (we are talking years). i think it is great flock is making good money from yahoo, but you really should do a little fact checking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, Hardin should check his facts too. if mozilla earned $2 per user as Hardin suggests, Mozilla would be making something near $200 million&#8230; i personally have never heard that they are making anywhere near that amount&#8230; have you??</p>
<p>google was the default search for mozilla and then firefox way before google paid mozilla any money (we are talking years). i think it is great flock is making good money from yahoo, but you really should do a little fact checking.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just at a preso by Mozilla folks that said Firefox had more than 100 million users (which is way more than the 85 million downloads). Do some research man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just at a preso by Mozilla folks that said Firefox had more than 100 million users (which is way more than the 85 million downloads). Do some research man.</p>
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