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	<title>Comments on: Zantaz&#8217;s $375M payday, and its unfortunate back-story</title>
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		<title>By: Planning for IPO, Mimosa raises another $17M for electronic archiving &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/07/06/zantazs-375m-payday-and-the-unfortunate-back-story/comment-page-1/#comment-813945</link>
		<dc:creator>Planning for IPO, Mimosa raises another $17M for electronic archiving &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The kind of comprehensive archiving that Mimosa offers is necessary for the &#8220;eDiscovery&#8221; process &#8212; namely, the process of searching through a company&#8217;s electronic records. With the growing number of legal requirements for corporate record-keeping, including the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, there&#8217;s been a lot of money entering this field. Last June, for example, Automatic acquired market leader Zantaz for $375 million (although the startup&#8217;s founder and early investors didn&#8217;t see much of a payoff). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The kind of comprehensive archiving that Mimosa offers is necessary for the &#8220;eDiscovery&#8221; process &#8212; namely, the process of searching through a company&#8217;s electronic records. With the growing number of legal requirements for corporate record-keeping, including the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, there&#8217;s been a lot of money entering this field. Last June, for example, Automatic acquired market leader Zantaz for $375 million (although the startup&#8217;s founder and early investors didn&#8217;t see much of a payoff). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: accillainjurb</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/07/06/zantazs-375m-payday-and-the-unfortunate-back-story/comment-page-1/#comment-401088</link>
		<dc:creator>accillainjurb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful and informative blog. Recommended for all to see. 
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		<title>By: tqmbvqoaao</title>
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		<dc:creator>tqmbvqoaao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! exmiyxgefelsnp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! exmiyxgefelsnp</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kuo&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Employees and Stock Options: not so rosy?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kuo&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Employees and Stock Options: not so rosy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see much from their stock options. This comes on top of several widely publicized sales where even the founders walked away with almost nothing. I&#8217;ve also recently been hearing from people in the private wealth business, who tell me that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see much from their stock options. This comes on top of several widely publicized sales where even the founders walked away with almost nothing. I&#8217;ve also recently been hearing from people in the private wealth business, who tell me that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: socialwrite.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>socialwrite.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which one group of investors is willing to sell it.&#8221; - Wow: 7 Lessons from Zantaz firesale, More here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which one group of investors is willing to sell it.&#8221; &#8211; Wow: 7 Lessons from Zantaz firesale, More here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bronte Media &#187; Venture Valuations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronte Media &#187; Venture Valuations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you raise smaller amounts of capital, at smaller valuations and with smaller required exit multiples, you leave a lot more scenarios open for the future (obviously at the expense of dilution). Like if your company is acquired for $375 million and you end up with $650,000. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you raise smaller amounts of capital, at smaller valuations and with smaller required exit multiples, you leave a lot more scenarios open for the future (obviously at the expense of dilution). Like if your company is acquired for $375 million and you end up with $650,000. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This what happens when you deal with second tier vcs who will do anything when they are desperate as comm ventures is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This what happens when you deal with second tier vcs who will do anything when they are desperate as comm ventures is now.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some interesting stuff, least they got their payday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting stuff, least they got their payday</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Kalara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny Kalara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about dirty laundry! 

Well, things WERE different in 2002 then they were in 2000 and as they are in 2007. Look at the upticks and down rounds of deals done in 2002 and compare it with the deal here - looks pretty normal.

Also the founder here seems to have sold a part of his holdings &quot;for living expenses and to finance another venture&quot;. Presumably the other ventures didn&#039;t pan out and this one did. He spread his risks and guess what, when you &quot;diversify&quot; your returns get lower.

I don&#039;t know any of these people, except to sympathize and empathize with them because I have been there. 
I kid that I have been on all six sides of the table; as a founder, as an investor, as the lead negotiator, as the counsel to previous investors, as a representative of the employees and as the due diligence lawyer facilitating the process. I wouldn&#039;t say that I have seen it all, but I have seen enough.

I did snicker at ComVentures, when Sequoia sued them for copying their website - that was so funny! Hopefully with extra $375M (minus .6M for the founder) they can hire a good web designer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about dirty laundry! </p>
<p>Well, things WERE different in 2002 then they were in 2000 and as they are in 2007. Look at the upticks and down rounds of deals done in 2002 and compare it with the deal here &#8211; looks pretty normal.</p>
<p>Also the founder here seems to have sold a part of his holdings &#8220;for living expenses and to finance another venture&#8221;. Presumably the other ventures didn&#8217;t pan out and this one did. He spread his risks and guess what, when you &#8220;diversify&#8221; your returns get lower.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know any of these people, except to sympathize and empathize with them because I have been there.<br />
I kid that I have been on all six sides of the table; as a founder, as an investor, as the lead negotiator, as the counsel to previous investors, as a representative of the employees and as the due diligence lawyer facilitating the process. I wouldn&#8217;t say that I have seen it all, but I have seen enough.</p>
<p>I did snicker at ComVentures, when Sequoia sued them for copying their website &#8211; that was so funny! Hopefully with extra $375M (minus .6M for the founder) they can hire a good web designer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Fish Market</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Fish Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 02:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Niesar, has been fighting since 2004, accusing the company’s board of directors, including ...  Posted on July 6th, 2007  in Interesting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Niesar, has been fighting since 2004, accusing the company’s board of directors, including &#8230;  Posted on July 6th, 2007  in Interesting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Entrepreneurs Beware ComVentures</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/07/06/zantazs-375m-payday-and-the-unfortunate-back-story/comment-page-1/#comment-367005</link>
		<dc:creator>Entrepreneurs Beware ComVentures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sad story involving Comventures popped up today, this time involving Zantaz (no, not the antacid Zantac). Long story short, although the now ill founder, William Bankert, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OnComVentures</title>
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		<dc:creator>OnComVentures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was an executive at several companies funded by ComVentures and Worldview and remain unsurprised at the way things turned out at Zantaz. 

Entrepreneurs would do well to explore every other firms/investors as their financial partners in building their company before considering certain venture firms and partners named below. There is enough hard work in building a company and you don&#039;t want crises, especially ones that are artificially inflated or even created, to be used against you to wipe out you and other shareholders, esp those that took the risk and put in the early hard work.

ComVentures/van der Meer, Crescendo/Spreng, Worldview/Orsak and Wei have similar operating approaches as reflected in the cases of Zantaz, Nishan, Force 10 and other Worldview deals. 

For every Zantaz shareholder, I&#039;d encourage you to join in the suit against the Zantaz directors as that&#039;s the only way you&#039;d get some money for the value you built. Go, Mr Niesar, and go Zantaz shareholders, rage against the ComVentures and their kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was an executive at several companies funded by ComVentures and Worldview and remain unsurprised at the way things turned out at Zantaz. </p>
<p>Entrepreneurs would do well to explore every other firms/investors as their financial partners in building their company before considering certain venture firms and partners named below. There is enough hard work in building a company and you don&#8217;t want crises, especially ones that are artificially inflated or even created, to be used against you to wipe out you and other shareholders, esp those that took the risk and put in the early hard work.</p>
<p>ComVentures/van der Meer, Crescendo/Spreng, Worldview/Orsak and Wei have similar operating approaches as reflected in the cases of Zantaz, Nishan, Force 10 and other Worldview deals. </p>
<p>For every Zantaz shareholder, I&#8217;d encourage you to join in the suit against the Zantaz directors as that&#8217;s the only way you&#8217;d get some money for the value you built. Go, Mr Niesar, and go Zantaz shareholders, rage against the ComVentures and their kind.</p>
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		<title>By: HipMojo.com - Main Street Meets Madison Avenue, Wall Street and Silicon Valley &#187; Another Classic Tale of Vulture Capitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>HipMojo.com - Main Street Meets Madison Avenue, Wall Street and Silicon Valley &#187; Another Classic Tale of Vulture Capitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VentureBeat: ComVentures&#8217; partner Roland van der Meer is one of the many defendants in a lawsuit filed by [...]</description>
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