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		<title>By: Box.net powers online storage for Dell &#8216;netbook&#8217; &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-827664</link>
		<dc:creator>Box.net powers online storage for Dell &#8216;netbook&#8217; &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the noise, Box.net, a start-up in Palo Alto, Calif., and our favorite from last year&#8217;s YCombinator class of incubated companies, has found a smart way to keep growing: It&#8217;s partnering with computer maker Dell to offer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dropbox makes online file storage and sharing more simple &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-798435</link>
		<dc:creator>Dropbox makes online file storage and sharing more simple &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote about the company last year, when it demonstrated at a YCombinator event. It is akin to Omnidrive, Sharpcast, and a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spalva-as</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-752194</link>
		<dc:creator>Spalva-as</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spalva-hs</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-727512</link>
		<dc:creator>Spalva-hs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; La pub qui s&#8217;ajuste à vos goûts - Le techno-blogue à Steph!</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-606650</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; La pub qui s&#8217;ajuste à vos goûts - Le techno-blogue à Steph!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wayt</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-476282</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YCombinator-for-the-Southeast

We&#039;ve been talking about it for nine months, and now we&#039;re really going to do it, probably with Stephen Fleming as &quot;our Paul Graham&quot;: we&#039;re going to create a &quot;YCombinator-for-the-Southeast.&quot;

I want introductions to brilliant young hackers with great ideas and big dreams. We can offer seed funding, connections, PR/credibility, advice, and community with others like you. Many of us are older geeks and entrepreneurs who have started and built software companies and cashed out. We&#039;ve been there, done that, and want to help you CHANGE THE WORLD.

Can you point us to a great piece of s/w you&#039;ve built and an open-source s/w project you&#039;ve contributed significantly to? Do you have big dreams? If so, please get in touch. We want to help you CHANGE THE WORLD.

Wayt King</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YCombinator-for-the-Southeast</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been talking about it for nine months, and now we&#8217;re really going to do it, probably with Stephen Fleming as &#8220;our Paul Graham&#8221;: we&#8217;re going to create a &#8220;YCombinator-for-the-Southeast.&#8221;</p>
<p>I want introductions to brilliant young hackers with great ideas and big dreams. We can offer seed funding, connections, PR/credibility, advice, and community with others like you. Many of us are older geeks and entrepreneurs who have started and built software companies and cashed out. We&#8217;ve been there, done that, and want to help you CHANGE THE WORLD.</p>
<p>Can you point us to a great piece of s/w you&#8217;ve built and an open-source s/w project you&#8217;ve contributed significantly to? Do you have big dreams? If so, please get in touch. We want to help you CHANGE THE WORLD.</p>
<p>Wayt King</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-465572</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TD: i thought i did make a point... 2 in fact.

i stated that AdPinion seemed to have discovered a way to double the clicks on ad banners.  i also made the point that i don&#039;t think mainstream audience uses ad blocking software.

while you&#039;re possibly correct they may have discovered something that others can copy (i&#039;m sure they&#039;d disagree), the fact is they seem to have figured out something notable.  remains to be seen if they can turn that into a business and/or defensible IP, but i think you&#039;re ripping them unduly.

every Y-Combinator &amp; Tech Star company by definition is doing something new &amp; limited in scale, since they have to build it in ~3 months.  thus it&#039;s easy to criticize, and easy to suggest it could be easily copied.

that said, i was still impressed by several of the companies (Fauxto in particular, others as well), and Y Combinator seems to be building some level of success recognition.

your hating aside, i&#039;d say they&#039;re outperforming the average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TD: i thought i did make a point&#8230; 2 in fact.</p>
<p>i stated that AdPinion seemed to have discovered a way to double the clicks on ad banners.  i also made the point that i don&#8217;t think mainstream audience uses ad blocking software.</p>
<p>while you&#8217;re possibly correct they may have discovered something that others can copy (i&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d disagree), the fact is they seem to have figured out something notable.  remains to be seen if they can turn that into a business and/or defensible IP, but i think you&#8217;re ripping them unduly.</p>
<p>every Y-Combinator &amp; Tech Star company by definition is doing something new &amp; limited in scale, since they have to build it in ~3 months.  thus it&#8217;s easy to criticize, and easy to suggest it could be easily copied.</p>
<p>that said, i was still impressed by several of the companies (Fauxto in particular, others as well), and Y Combinator seems to be building some level of success recognition.</p>
<p>your hating aside, i&#8217;d say they&#8217;re outperforming the average.</p>
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		<title>By: TechDumpster (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-463360</link>
		<dc:creator>TechDumpster (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - why don&#039;t you ever make a point?

AdPinions will never get enough statistical significance to have any value to an advertiser.  It won&#039;t become an ad network.  Their best hope is to convince some low IQ folks in the ad industry to buy their product which could be coded by anyone with a good understanding of Bayesian relationships and a CS degree.  Those folks would do a much better job than the lamers over at AdPinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; why don&#8217;t you ever make a point?</p>
<p>AdPinions will never get enough statistical significance to have any value to an advertiser.  It won&#8217;t become an ad network.  Their best hope is to convince some low IQ folks in the ad industry to buy their product which could be coded by anyone with a good understanding of Bayesian relationships and a CS degree.  Those folks would do a much better job than the lamers over at AdPinion.</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-463206</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@aaron: you&#039;re certainly entitled to your opinions (and sometimes i even agree with you), however i don&#039;t get how you feel like i&#039;m attacking you -- particularly when i feel like *you&#039;re* attacking others (and indirectly me, since i stated a positive opinion before your negative one).

i guess my feeling is that when you jump in with critical commentary, you should be willing to withstand similar critical commentary right back.

if on the other hand, you think i&#039;m attacking you unjustly &amp; moreso than you&#039;re criticing the Y-Combinator companies above... then my apologies.

- dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aaron: you&#8217;re certainly entitled to your opinions (and sometimes i even agree with you), however i don&#8217;t get how you feel like i&#8217;m attacking you &#8212; particularly when i feel like *you&#8217;re* attacking others (and indirectly me, since i stated a positive opinion before your negative one).</p>
<p>i guess my feeling is that when you jump in with critical commentary, you should be willing to withstand similar critical commentary right back.</p>
<p>if on the other hand, you think i&#8217;m attacking you unjustly &amp; moreso than you&#8217;re criticing the Y-Combinator companies above&#8230; then my apologies.</p>
<p>- dmc</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-461778</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuzzwich is a lot of fun. I would love to see them make the voting and rating of animations more of a focus - I want to be able to easily locate and watch the funniest animations.
It will be interested to see how they go about monetizing the product. I am a little skeptical about the ability to do product placements within the minivids. That said, if they get a lot of funny content, they seem to have plenty of outlets for impression-based ads</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuzzwich is a lot of fun. I would love to see them make the voting and rating of animations more of a focus &#8211; I want to be able to easily locate and watch the funniest animations.<br />
It will be interested to see how they go about monetizing the product. I am a little skeptical about the ability to do product placements within the minivids. That said, if they get a lot of funny content, they seem to have plenty of outlets for impression-based ads</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; Jive Software raises $15M, takes on Microsoft in Web 2.0 office</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-460420</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; Jive Software raises $15M, takes on Microsoft in Web 2.0 office</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by 2009.Other players in this area include Dropbox, the very young Y Combinator company we wrote about yesterday; Intel offers SuiteTwo, which combines Socialtext (wiki software), Six Apart’s Movable Type [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by 2009.Other players in this area include Dropbox, the very young Y Combinator company we wrote about yesterday; Intel offers SuiteTwo, which combines Socialtext (wiki software), Six Apart’s Movable Type [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Geek</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-460056</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dropbox and Adpinion were the pick of the bunch..... if only Dropbox could integrate w/ one or more of the social network web platforms... now that would kickstart it ...

The other notable was Disqus -- nobody is bringing scoring/sortability/organization to comments and tags - they have something there...

-geek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dropbox and Adpinion were the pick of the bunch&#8230;.. if only Dropbox could integrate w/ one or more of the social network web platforms&#8230; now that would kickstart it &#8230;</p>
<p>The other notable was Disqus &#8212; nobody is bringing scoring/sortability/organization to comments and tags &#8211; they have something there&#8230;</p>
<p>-geek</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-460000</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Dave, I think that the mainstream user wouldn&#039;t understand what voting up or down an ad is in the first place, and that the people who would understand and even take the time to do it are the people savvy enough to block them in the first place.

Your pattern of attacking readers is very unprofessional; I&#039;ve seen you do it at TechDumpster, at TechCrunch, and now here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Dave, I think that the mainstream user wouldn&#8217;t understand what voting up or down an ad is in the first place, and that the people who would understand and even take the time to do it are the people savvy enough to block them in the first place.</p>
<p>Your pattern of attacking readers is very unprofessional; I&#8217;ve seen you do it at TechDumpster, at TechCrunch, and now here.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-459986</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Dave, I think people who would take the time to vote yes or no on an ad would be the same kind of people who would use an adblocking tool. I don&#039;t think the mainstream user is going to spend any amount of time voting ads up or down; they have enough problems finding the shopping cart on Amazon.

This pattern of you attacking readers is pretty unprofessional, I might add.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Dave, I think people who would take the time to vote yes or no on an ad would be the same kind of people who would use an adblocking tool. I don&#8217;t think the mainstream user is going to spend any amount of time voting ads up or down; they have enough problems finding the shopping cart on Amazon.</p>
<p>This pattern of you attacking readers is pretty unprofessional, I might add.</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/16/the-y-combinator-list/comment-page-1/#comment-459258</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the contrary, perhaps it&#039;s an instance of you as a commenter being too smart for your own good.

actually the data Adpinion was showing indicated they were seeing 2x normal clicks than regular banners.  that would seem to be notable for advertisers.

and seriously: you think mainstream audience are using adblocking tools?  dude, you are way out of touch.  at best that&#039;s 5-10% of market, likely much smaller.

actually the most important part of what they&#039;re doing is using feedback to collect info on which ads are relevant / clustered together for some users.  this provides an interesting &amp; new way to do targeting.

i admit i was skeptical at first, but i think they might have something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the contrary, perhaps it&#8217;s an instance of you as a commenter being too smart for your own good.</p>
<p>actually the data Adpinion was showing indicated they were seeing 2x normal clicks than regular banners.  that would seem to be notable for advertisers.</p>
<p>and seriously: you think mainstream audience are using adblocking tools?  dude, you are way out of touch.  at best that&#8217;s 5-10% of market, likely much smaller.</p>
<p>actually the most important part of what they&#8217;re doing is using feedback to collect info on which ads are relevant / clustered together for some users.  this provides an interesting &amp; new way to do targeting.</p>
<p>i admit i was skeptical at first, but i think they might have something.</p>
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