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	<title>Comments on: Facebook didn’t dip: Comscore, Quantcast, Compete all wrong?</title>
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		<title>By: ladybird1005</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladybird1005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! A great Traffic Estimator tool  is &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.estimix.com&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.estimix.com&lt;/a&gt;. It seems to generate very accurate information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! A great Traffic Estimator tool  is <a href=&#39;http://www.estimix.com&#39; rel="nofollow">http://www.estimix.com</a>. It seems to generate very accurate information.</p>
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		<title>By: Increase website traffic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Increase website traffic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Google jumps into the website traffic comparison game with Google Trends for Websites &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google jumps into the website traffic comparison game with Google Trends for Websites &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a skeptical eye. Few websites claim any of these measurement services have correct data for them (here&#8217;s some sample criticism), and that is not helped by the fact that all of them seem to have different [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a skeptical eye. Few websites claim any of these measurement services have correct data for them (here&#8217;s some sample criticism), and that is not helped by the fact that all of them seem to have different [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Congratulation that VentureBeat raises $320,000 &#124; Silk Road To Dragon China</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/10/22/facebook-didn%e2%80%99t-dip-comscore-quantcast-compete-all-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-790330</link>
		<dc:creator>Congratulation that VentureBeat raises $320,000 &#124; Silk Road To Dragon China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Compete, the sites PEHub cites, are notoriously unreliable, especially for relatively small sites (read this), because they rely on non-direct methods. Wow, now even I know how it feels to be raked over the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Compete, the sites PEHub cites, are notoriously unreliable, especially for relatively small sites (read this), because they rely on non-direct methods. Wow, now even I know how it feels to be raked over the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; VentureBeat raises $320,000 seed round, traffic growing</title>
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		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; VentureBeat raises $320,000 seed round, traffic growing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Compete, the sites PEHub cites, are notoriously unreliable, especially for relatively small sites (read this), because they rely on non-direct methods. Wow, now even I know how it feels to be raked over the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Compete, the sites PEHub cites, are notoriously unreliable, especially for relatively small sites (read this), because they rely on non-direct methods. Wow, now even I know how it feels to be raked over the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; Web traffic measurement company Quantcast raises $20M more</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/10/22/facebook-didn%e2%80%99t-dip-comscore-quantcast-compete-all-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-745880</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; Web traffic measurement company Quantcast raises $20M more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even here, Quantcast has moved to allow sites some flexibility in what is made public. (See our coverage of the significant methodology problems of industry leader Comscore and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] even here, Quantcast has moved to allow sites some flexibility in what is made public. (See our coverage of the significant methodology problems of industry leader Comscore and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; How-to video site 5min lands funding, begins uphill climb in US</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/10/22/facebook-didn%e2%80%99t-dip-comscore-quantcast-compete-all-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-713022</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; How-to video site 5min lands funding, begins uphill climb in US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cases, to be unreliable. However, every web analytics service has shown that it has issues. See our article from earlier this fall, that dug into web analytics services&#8217; many [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cases, to be unreliable. However, every web analytics service has shown that it has issues. See our article from earlier this fall, that dug into web analytics services&#8217; many [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; How-to video site5min lands funding, headquarters in US, begins uphill climb</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/10/22/facebook-didn%e2%80%99t-dip-comscore-quantcast-compete-all-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-713008</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; How-to video site5min lands funding, headquarters in US, begins uphill climb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cases, to be unreliable. However, every web analytics service has shown that it has issues. See our article from earlier this fall, that dug into web analytics services&#8217; many issues.  Tagged N/A        [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cases, to be unreliable. However, every web analytics service has shown that it has issues. See our article from earlier this fall, that dug into web analytics services&#8217; many issues.  Tagged N/A        [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Traffic Drop Looks Seasonal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook Traffic Drop Looks Seasonal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was fairly widely reported (including by Venture Beat - though they didn&#8217;t quote any of NetRatings&#8217;s numbers, why not?) that Facebook We took [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was fairly widely reported (including by Venture Beat &#8211; though they didn&#8217;t quote any of NetRatings&#8217;s numbers, why not?) that Facebook We took [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Mike&#8217;s Internet News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Publishers Still Having Difficulty Counting</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/10/22/facebook-didn%e2%80%99t-dip-comscore-quantcast-compete-all-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-593252</link>
		<dc:creator>El Mike&#8217;s Internet News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Publishers Still Having Difficulty Counting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the measurement of online audiences has proven to be difficult, at best. Most recently, Comscore reported a 9.3 percent drop in Facebook&#8217;s traffic, which was met not by fears that the traffic to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the measurement of online audiences has proven to be difficult, at best. Most recently, Comscore reported a 9.3 percent drop in Facebook&#8217;s traffic, which was met not by fears that the traffic to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ShemTechnology.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Publishers Still Having Difficulty Counting</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/10/22/facebook-didn%e2%80%99t-dip-comscore-quantcast-compete-all-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-593056</link>
		<dc:creator>ShemTechnology.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Publishers Still Having Difficulty Counting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the measurement of online audiences has proven to be difficult, at best. Most recently, Comscore reported a 9.3 percent drop in Facebook&#8217;s traffic, which was met not by fears that the traffic to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the measurement of online audiences has proven to be difficult, at best. Most recently, Comscore reported a 9.3 percent drop in Facebook&#8217;s traffic, which was met not by fears that the traffic to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Online Publishers Still Having Difficulty Counting &#124; www.theirway.net</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/10/22/facebook-didn%e2%80%99t-dip-comscore-quantcast-compete-all-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-592832</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Publishers Still Having Difficulty Counting &#124; www.theirway.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the measurement of online audiences has proven to be difficult, at best. Most recently, Comscore reported a 9.3 percent drop in Facebook&#8217;s traffic, which was met not by fears that the traffic to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the measurement of online audiences has proven to be difficult, at best. Most recently, Comscore reported a 9.3 percent drop in Facebook&#8217;s traffic, which was met not by fears that the traffic to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - Compete is not just toolbars.  The 2 million come from ISPs, software, other panel data, etc.  Compete aggregates data from 10+ different data sources.

There is a neat table on their website in their FAQs if you&#039;re interested in details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave &#8211; Compete is not just toolbars.  The 2 million come from ISPs, software, other panel data, etc.  Compete aggregates data from 10+ different data sources.</p>
<p>There is a neat table on their website in their FAQs if you&#8217;re interested in details.</p>
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		<title>By: Konrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook’s traffic is up, our panels are wrong. It would be interesting for other vendors to explain the actual reason their numbers are wrong, instead of merely defending their methodology.

Direct measurement is the only way to accurately measure internet audiences. It’s much easier to correct for cookie deletion and the use of multiple computers than it is to create a panel large and diverse enough to capture the nuances of internet traffic.

Fox, CBS, WordPress, Hi5, Slide, IDG Communications, Gawker Media, Image Shack, Smugmug, Metacafe and more than 15,000 other publishers, representing millions of distinct web destinations, have successfully implemented Quantcast tags.  We’re trying to open up and demystify the science of audience measurement. Load times for the tags are minimal as they are served by Akamai from over 20,000 locations globally, but the program does require that publishers place them with care – if a tag’s not on a page we can’t count it (but yes, we should do more to help publishers spot when tags are missing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook’s traffic is up, our panels are wrong. It would be interesting for other vendors to explain the actual reason their numbers are wrong, instead of merely defending their methodology.</p>
<p>Direct measurement is the only way to accurately measure internet audiences. It’s much easier to correct for cookie deletion and the use of multiple computers than it is to create a panel large and diverse enough to capture the nuances of internet traffic.</p>
<p>Fox, CBS, WordPress, Hi5, Slide, IDG Communications, Gawker Media, Image Shack, Smugmug, Metacafe and more than 15,000 other publishers, representing millions of distinct web destinations, have successfully implemented Quantcast tags.  We’re trying to open up and demystify the science of audience measurement. Load times for the tags are minimal as they are served by Akamai from over 20,000 locations globally, but the program does require that publishers place them with care – if a tag’s not on a page we can’t count it (but yes, we should do more to help publishers spot when tags are missing).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this wrap up. One thing that is of interest to me is the disparity between Google Analytics and Comscore. Above it notes that because analytics cannot give true unique visitors counts, that should still mean that pageviews are the same, and that the page-views per visitor should be adjusted along with the adjustment for the amount of actual unique visitors instead of unique visits. 

However, these stats don&#039;t seem to line up that way, either pages per visitor or total pageviews when comparing ComScore and Google Analytics. How can this be resolved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this wrap up. One thing that is of interest to me is the disparity between Google Analytics and Comscore. Above it notes that because analytics cannot give true unique visitors counts, that should still mean that pageviews are the same, and that the page-views per visitor should be adjusted along with the adjustment for the amount of actual unique visitors instead of unique visits. </p>
<p>However, these stats don&#8217;t seem to line up that way, either pages per visitor or total pageviews when comparing ComScore and Google Analytics. How can this be resolved?</p>
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