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		<title>By: Writing and New Media: Zachary Tobolowsky &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Using Tufte&#8217;s Model to Face the Limits of Facebook</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-2/#comment-834566</link>
		<dc:creator>Writing and New Media: Zachary Tobolowsky &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Using Tufte&#8217;s Model to Face the Limits of Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sherrets, Doug. &#8220;Facebook Search Expands - Will it take on Google?&#8221; 11 Nov. 2007. http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sherrets, Doug. &#8220;Facebook Search Expands &#8211; Will it take on Google?&#8221; 11 Nov. 2007. <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook launches web search using Microsoft Live &#8212; and its own search engine? (Updated) &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-830446</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook launches web search using Microsoft Live &#8212; and its own search engine? (Updated) &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is just the latest way for Facebook to make its search feature more valuable; we&#8217;ve covered how it has already integrated a variety of pages, applications and other features into its search box. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is just the latest way for Facebook to make its search feature more valuable; we&#8217;ve covered how it has already integrated a variety of pages, applications and other features into its search box. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On social search &#171; On Technology</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-827991</link>
		<dc:creator>On social search &#171; On Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] social&#160;search  9 09 2008   Google&#8217;s Marissa Meyer has said that social search hasn&#8217;t shown much promise but if someone were to prove its work then [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] social&nbsp;search  9 09 2008   Google&#8217;s Marissa Meyer has said that social search hasn&#8217;t shown much promise but if someone were to prove its work then [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-815480</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Facebook search engine contains so many bugs it never really worked anyway.  So the censorship point seems rather moot.  If you don&#039;t believe this, you&#039;re either not a Facebook user or have never used the search.  

Try searching people with a simple keyword like &quot;female&quot; in a large network like San Francisco.  It claims there are 406 results yet the tab claims 500+ results.  There are, of course, around a quarter million profiles in the SF network, half of which are female.  The first page of results contains around 25% redundant profiles.  The second page contains around 25% redundant (within the page) and around 25% from the first page (around 50% total).  The third page contains 25% new redundant results, etc.  By the fifth page or so, you&#039;ve reached the point of diminishing returns.  The search has broken down to the point where it&#039;s useless.  But if you search all 40 pages you&#039;ll conclude that there are perhaps a few dozen true results for &quot;female&quot;.  

At least they recently fixed a long-standing bug where each page returned a completely random number of results (1-10), not the 10 which it was supposed to.  

Yes, the guys who run Facebook certainly aren&#039;t users of their own website or they&#039;d make the search engine work so they could use it themselves.  History has shown that if a  company&#039;s employees aren&#039;t users of their own product there&#039;s a very high likelihood that it&#039;s doomed.  And thus next-to-worthless from an investment standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Facebook search engine contains so many bugs it never really worked anyway.  So the censorship point seems rather moot.  If you don&#8217;t believe this, you&#8217;re either not a Facebook user or have never used the search.  </p>
<p>Try searching people with a simple keyword like &#8220;female&#8221; in a large network like San Francisco.  It claims there are 406 results yet the tab claims 500+ results.  There are, of course, around a quarter million profiles in the SF network, half of which are female.  The first page of results contains around 25% redundant profiles.  The second page contains around 25% redundant (within the page) and around 25% from the first page (around 50% total).  The third page contains 25% new redundant results, etc.  By the fifth page or so, you&#8217;ve reached the point of diminishing returns.  The search has broken down to the point where it&#8217;s useless.  But if you search all 40 pages you&#8217;ll conclude that there are perhaps a few dozen true results for &#8220;female&#8221;.  </p>
<p>At least they recently fixed a long-standing bug where each page returned a completely random number of results (1-10), not the 10 which it was supposed to.  </p>
<p>Yes, the guys who run Facebook certainly aren&#8217;t users of their own website or they&#8217;d make the search engine work so they could use it themselves.  History has shown that if a  company&#8217;s employees aren&#8217;t users of their own product there&#8217;s a very high likelihood that it&#8217;s doomed.  And thus next-to-worthless from an investment standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Weed</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-797130</link>
		<dc:creator>Weed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the current search facility at Facebook is utterly useless, the idea of them developing any form of web search is nothing less than farcical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the current search facility at Facebook is utterly useless, the idea of them developing any form of web search is nothing less than farcical.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-767328</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A don&#039;t love the facebook results, only 2 next page?! No advanced features!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A don&#8217;t love the facebook results, only 2 next page?! No advanced features!</p>
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		<title>By: Google’s Marissa Mayer: Social search is the future at Conceptualist.com, By Sahar Sarid</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-764038</link>
		<dc:creator>Google’s Marissa Mayer: Social search is the future at Conceptualist.com, By Sahar Sarid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At an event in August, Marissa Mayer, Google’s leading VP in search, said social search hasn’t shown much promise, but if it does, Google would be in a good position to incorporate it. I wrote about that here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At an event in August, Marissa Mayer, Google’s leading VP in search, said social search hasn’t shown much promise, but if it does, Google would be in a good position to incorporate it. I wrote about that here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; Google&#8217;s Marissa Mayer: Social search is the future</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-763814</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; Google&#8217;s Marissa Mayer: Social search is the future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At an event in August, Marissa Mayer, Google’s leading VP in search, said social search hasn&#8217;t shown much promise, but if it does, Google would be in a good position to incorporate it. I wrote about that here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At an event in August, Marissa Mayer, Google’s leading VP in search, said social search hasn&#8217;t shown much promise, but if it does, Google would be in a good position to incorporate it. I wrote about that here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook search expands: will it take on Google? &#124; Venture Commons Blog</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-665030</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook search expands: will it take on Google? &#124; Venture Commons Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the full article: http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take- on-google/  addthis_url = [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the full article: <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-</a> on-google/  addthis_url = [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thought Leader &#187; Llew Claasen &#187; Facebook 2: The search engine is coming</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-663056</link>
		<dc:creator>Thought Leader &#187; Llew Claasen &#187; Facebook 2: The search engine is coming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they look for friends, interest groups, applications and more recently even special-purpose, commercially driven pages. You don&#8217;t even have to teach people how to search; more than 5% are leaving Facebook to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they look for friends, interest groups, applications and more recently even special-purpose, commercially driven pages. You don&#8217;t even have to teach people how to search; more than 5% are leaving Facebook to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; Google&#8217;s first social search step &#8212; your vote, please</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-657078</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; Google&#8217;s first social search step &#8212; your vote, please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussion about Facebook enhancing web search through using social data, Google has seemingly responded with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; Google&#8217;s first social search step &#8212; your vote, please</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-657092</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; Google&#8217;s first social search step &#8212; your vote, please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussion about Facebook enhancing web search through using social data, Google has seemingly responded with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doug Sherrets</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-655874</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Sherrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt, to your point, I think an important thing to ask is that if Facebook can enhance search, then why not make better search available to users? 

Right, any site with a lot of users probably has high upstream numbers like MySpace. The challenge then is about keeping users on your site to do the search rather than navigating to Google.com or using a Google toolbar. As an example, Yahoo does a good job funneling their users to Yahoo web search once they’re done using Yahoo pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt, to your point, I think an important thing to ask is that if Facebook can enhance search, then why not make better search available to users? </p>
<p>Right, any site with a lot of users probably has high upstream numbers like MySpace. The challenge then is about keeping users on your site to do the search rather than navigating to Google.com or using a Google toolbar. As an example, Yahoo does a good job funneling their users to Yahoo web search once they’re done using Yahoo pages.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Sherrets</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-655860</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Sherrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene, you’re right it would take a lot of effort from Facebook to build a search engine on par with Google/Yahoo. To that point, I suggested in the post that Facebook start with a search deal with Google, Yahoo or Microsoft. That way Facebook can start with a good search engine, then work on enhancing it. I agree that right now it’s good to focus on the things you mentioned like the platform itself. I agree that Facebook can become much better than just another search engine. To get there, search profits could be used to invest more in developing the platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene, you’re right it would take a lot of effort from Facebook to build a search engine on par with Google/Yahoo. To that point, I suggested in the post that Facebook start with a search deal with Google, Yahoo or Microsoft. That way Facebook can start with a good search engine, then work on enhancing it. I agree that right now it’s good to focus on the things you mentioned like the platform itself. I agree that Facebook can become much better than just another search engine. To get there, search profits could be used to invest more in developing the platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Sherrets</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/11/facebook-search-expands-will-it-take-on-google/comment-page-1/#comment-655846</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Sherrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariana, thank you for recommending the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariana, thank you for recommending the story.</p>
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