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Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:10:02 +0000

[...] to VentureBeat, LongJump is offering a SaaS version of a “relational database architecture.” [...]

By: Ivan Prueitt

Ivan Prueitt — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:44:52 +0000

I am evaluating Salesforce.com and others including Longjumpp as the platform to build 21stCenturyCollege.com. This will be a SaaS company addressing the desparate needs of higher education. What I see from my experience working with Salesforce is that they are having to transform their CRM culture to a platform company. The mindset – as expressed by Marc Benioff- to reshape their business model is not reaching the front lines. My experience is limited but instincts tells me that Marc is struggling to turn the ship around. A younger company with fresh and hungry minds may be able to set the service side of the platform than a company as large as Salesforce. But I am thrilled with the potential for reshaping information technology in higher education, before legacy thinking kills it.

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Ignite PR | Blog - 2008 January 14 — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:31:31 +0000

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By: Paul McNamara

Paul McNamara — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:54 +0000

Matt, no worries, thanks for taking the time to do an update.

P.S., we just launched Coghead 2.0 today!

By: Matt Marshall

Matt Marshall — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:12:33 +0000

Paul, thanks, and apologies. I’ve updated.

By: Start up Longjump adds another database utility to the cloud |

Start up Longjump adds another database utility to the cloud | — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:09:50 +0000

[...] January 14, 2008Start up Longjump adds another database utility to the cloud With its introduction in the shadow of Amazon’s cloud based database, Longjump is hoping multi interface access and workflow management will be give them an advantage over the incumbent. In comparison to Amazon’s service, LongJump’s relational database further encapsulates objects within its database, so that they can be worked with more easily. For example, LongJump lets you do things like search for relationships, i.e, letting you show all products in your database that are say, related to a sports (or category = sports). In Amazon’s case, you have call up data about your products, and do the search analysis yourself or with some other product. A range of other database or related services, from DabbleDB, Coghead and Zoho, also don’t let you manage workflow. (from Venturebeat) [...]

By: Don Jones

Don Jones — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:47:31 +0000

Sridhar – I tried your spreadsheet app. I liked the presentation of it and migrated some files over. In a few days I stopped – too much waiting for updating…

By: Sridhar Vembu

Sridhar Vembu — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:25:05 +0000

Zoho offers two services – Zoho Creator that focuses on creating DB-based applications, and Zoho DB & Reports which focuses on querying and reporting. Creator does offer a full-fledged scripting/workflow engine, while DB offers SQL.

These two are being integrated so that data created from an app in Creator can be reported on using the DB/Reports.

Don, have you tried Zoho specifically? We would love to know which service you tried and encountered reliability issues. We have invested heavily in infrastructure (both hardware & software) to make Zoho a service users can depend on.

Thank you.
Sridhar Vembu
CEO
AdventNet/Zoho

By: Paul McNamara

Paul McNamara — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:19:25 +0000

“A range of other database or related services, from DabbleDB, Coghead and Zoho, also don’t let you manage workflow.”

Matt, not true. Coghead has an embedded BPEL engine. This allows you do create very powerful process and workflow in your apps. Its what makes Coghead a true application platform rather than just a simple database builder.

By: Don

Don — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:51:34 +0000

As the creator and owner of a venture capital database, I’m always interested to see the new stuff coming out.

In my experience, I’ve found that the most important aspect about databases is to understand what your users want most, it isn’t so much the guts of creating it, though from the sound of it, LongJump may be doing a good job on the nuts and bolts side, though I wonder if that will become a commodity business quickly.

My other thought is that the comparison between LongJump and Salesforce is a bit problematic. Salesforce is not only a database for end users, but also a platform for developers to integrate their applications and sell directly to end users. Also, the price point of SF reflects the fact that each user gets a dedicated representative (for whatever that’s worth). The $20/mo price point doesn’t support that – it is a true ’self-service’ model.

Lastly, I’ve tried the Zoho’s of the world, and their reliability is questionable. The only online service that is reliable enough for me is Google, and even then I drum my fingers sometimes. To perform important database routines reliably requires major data center resources, IMHO.