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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Drug engineer&#8221; Numerate rises from the ashes of Pharmix</title>
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		<title>By: Deepak</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/02/12/drug-engineer-numerate-arises-from-the-ashes-of-pharmix/comment-page-1/#comment-791352</link>
		<dc:creator>Deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

Life everything in this industry, people keep waiting for that magic bullet, but I have yet to see one.

Will be interesting to see where this goes.  Investors often lack the patience that is required for a small company to grow into a drug company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>Life everything in this industry, people keep waiting for that magic bullet, but I have yet to see one.</p>
<p>Will be interesting to see where this goes.  Investors often lack the patience that is required for a small company to grow into a drug company.</p>
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		<title>By: David P. Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David P. Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I didn&#039;t intend to imply that rational-drug design hasn&#039;t yielded any benefits at all, just that the ultimate vision of creating drugs with particular properties from first principles hasn&#039;t really ever worked out.

As for Numerate, of course, I don&#039;t have any better sense than anyone else whether their &lt;em&gt;in silico&lt;/em&gt; technology actually works the way they claim. I am pretty sure, though, that it&#039;s a lot easier to raise money as a developer of therapeutics than it is as a service or contract business in this industry. Numerate sounds like it&#039;s partnering out of hard experience, but since it&#039;s also pursuing its own candidates and already debating whether to keep them exclusive or partner them, the company doesn&#039;t seem to have ruled out the possibility of becoming a drug company itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I didn&#8217;t intend to imply that rational-drug design hasn&#8217;t yielded any benefits at all, just that the ultimate vision of creating drugs with particular properties from first principles hasn&#8217;t really ever worked out.</p>
<p>As for Numerate, of course, I don&#8217;t have any better sense than anyone else whether their <em>in silico</em> technology actually works the way they claim. I am pretty sure, though, that it&#8217;s a lot easier to raise money as a developer of therapeutics than it is as a service or contract business in this industry. Numerate sounds like it&#8217;s partnering out of hard experience, but since it&#8217;s also pursuing its own candidates and already debating whether to keep them exclusive or partner them, the company doesn&#8217;t seem to have ruled out the possibility of becoming a drug company itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to think of it, my argument above directly points to Pharmix.  Numerate seems to be going to partnership route that I suggested earlier instead of trying to go it alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it, my argument above directly points to Pharmix.  Numerate seems to be going to partnership route that I suggested earlier instead of trying to go it alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepak</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/02/12/drug-engineer-numerate-arises-from-the-ashes-of-pharmix/comment-page-1/#comment-789980</link>
		<dc:creator>Deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know anything specifically about Numerate so my answer is generic and not targeted at the company in particular.

It&#039;s not quite correct to say that rational drug design has not yielded any drug candidates.  Yes it might be hard to pick one drug and say &quot;this exists because of rational design&quot;, but on the other hand at pretty much every pharma company computational chemistry/molecular modeling are part of the discovery process.  

There are also too many examples of in silico companies trying to become drug companies based on a computational platform.  Based on my own experience, that&#039;s just not a feasible model.  I&#039;d love to be proven wrong, but such companies are likely to find much more success if they functioned as service providers.  In an increasingly outsourced/virtual pharma business, my suggestion is that that companies like Numerate  would be likely to be much more successful as part of a larger company where there technology provides a competitive advantage, or as a boutique service provider to the pharma industry which is always in the hunt for good molecules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything specifically about Numerate so my answer is generic and not targeted at the company in particular.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not quite correct to say that rational drug design has not yielded any drug candidates.  Yes it might be hard to pick one drug and say &#8220;this exists because of rational design&#8221;, but on the other hand at pretty much every pharma company computational chemistry/molecular modeling are part of the discovery process.  </p>
<p>There are also too many examples of in silico companies trying to become drug companies based on a computational platform.  Based on my own experience, that&#8217;s just not a feasible model.  I&#8217;d love to be proven wrong, but such companies are likely to find much more success if they functioned as service providers.  In an increasingly outsourced/virtual pharma business, my suggestion is that that companies like Numerate  would be likely to be much more successful as part of a larger company where there technology provides a competitive advantage, or as a boutique service provider to the pharma industry which is always in the hunt for good molecules.</p>
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		<title>By: Life sciences briefing: Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2008 &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life sciences briefing: Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2008 &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Heart, HIV drug maker Numerate acquires assets of Pharmix &#8211; I&#8217;ve updated this item and moved it into a standalone post here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Heart, HIV drug maker Numerate acquires assets of Pharmix &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heart, HIV drug maker Numerate acquires assets of Pharmix &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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