younoodle.jpgYouNoodle, a new San Francisco company, says it has developed a “startup predictor,” or a set of analysis tools to help investors place bets on the university entrepreneurs that are the most likely to succeed.

The company, founded by two 20-something entrepreneurs who met at Oxford, will offer its basic technology beginning March 3. Its core analysis stems from work YouNoodle has done over the past 11 months, working with universities to help them organize business plan competitions. The “predictor” analysis will consist of historical data about qualities of a start-up team’s founders, the type of network these founders have, their participation in competitions and their progress over time. By comparing founding teams across hundreds of university, college and vocational campuses, YouNoodle says it can make good estimates for success entrepreneurial teams in their earliest stages. A more advanced algorithm will be released some time later for professional investors, for a subscription fee.

younoodle2.jpgI talked with two of the founders this evening, Bob Goodson, 27 (left) who is chief executive, and Krill Makharinsky, 22 (right), both recruited by PayPal founder and Slide chief executive Max Levchin to come to the U.S. Levchin and former PayPal chief executive Peter Thiel have both invested in YouNoodle, as has Thiel’s Founder Fund. Goodson wouldn’t disclose the amount; he said other investors will also be announced.

I challenged them on their audacious goal of predicting success of start-ups, telling them it was impossible to say which ones become the next hundred billion dollar Google. I’d read Goodson’s quote the NYT earlier in the day where he said: “Give us some information, and we’ll give you some idea of what the company will be worth in five years.” That’s pretty absurd, and investor Paul Kedrosky’s quote to the Times was spot on: “If their tool did such a good job, they’d raise a fund themselves and beat the tar out of us.”

But when I talked with them directly, the two founders were somewhat chagrined by the New York Times article, saying it was sensationalist, especially the Times’ headline about being able to predict a company’s fate. Whether they were backtracking or not, I don’t know, but what they told me seemed to make a lot more sense than what I read in the Times. “That’s not what we’re doing,” Goodson told me. “What we’re interested in is the very earliest stage. That’s the biggest pain, when it’s just getting off the ground,” he said. He explained that they’re trying to do with more mathematical rigor what an investor tries anyway through time-intensive diligence, that is, check into a team’s heritage, its network, success with early prototypes, etc., and then make conclusions about a team by comparing it with other founding teams. Goodson conceded: “Of course, it would be absurd to say we’d predict all the factors involved that go into a startup being successful.”

In other words, this makes a lot of sense, and I can see it being quite useful if done right. There is so much work investors have to do, and so much inefficiency before the first round of capital, that anything to make it smoother would be good for both the startup and the investor. However, after the first round, market factors, and other dynamics take over, it’s impossible to predict how a company will do.

Today (Monday), the company has opened up sections of its site, including profiles of companies, entrepreneurs, as well as several of the groups that are hosting business plan competitions on the site, such as Stanford’s BASES, and the Stanford Social e-challenge Competition, as well as programs at Berkeley, Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge and Imperial College London. You can subscribe to an RSS feed to stay updated on events and news about start-ups of your choice, and you can upload your resume for others to see.

The company is a team of five.

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  1. The Web RoundUp: Feb 18, 2008 (updated) : unitedBIT said:

    [...] Two former Oxford University students are getting attention (and seed money) in Silicon Valley for developing new technology that automates aspects of the venture capital decision-making process. Kirill Makharinsky, 21, and Bob Goodson, 27, call their software a “start-up predictor,” and they say their company, YouNoodle.com, might give an edge to venture capitalists and other investors trying to decide whether to sink money into an early-stage company. “Give us some information, and we’ll give you some idea of what the company will be worth in five years,” Goodson said. More at New York Times, TechCrunch, VentureBeat [...]

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5 Comments

  1. Alex said:

    ‘…He explained that they’re trying to do with more mathematical rigor what an investor tries anyway through time-intensive diligence, that is, check into a team’s heritage, its network, success with early prototypes, etc., and then make conclusions about a team by comparing it with other founding teams’

    Problem is, these factors you’ve pointed out are essentially qualitative assessments. As a destination and knowledge base for start-up info and as a networking portal, their idea sounds fine. Applying some algorithm to these elusive criteria? Not a chance…

  2. dave mcclure said:

    just because some data is fuzzy & qualitative in nature doesn’t mean it can’t be statistically significant and/or meaningful.

    as any young male will tell you, the ability to spot a member of the opposite sex at 200 hundred yards away, from behind, wearing a raincoat, etc… is often enough data to make a meaningful assessment & potentially life-changing decision ;)

    all that matters is whether the algorithm they’re using has enough data to make relevant decisions & gets it right often enough to be more than random. or, at least less random than your average VC ;)

    best of luck to them.

  3. Yuri Ammosov said:

    Max Levchine would fail this test. In fact, he told a zillion times PayPal became THE online payment system because his encryption algorithm was much harded to hack than that of any other online payment competitor AND because Peter Thiel was so adept at dodging US banking regulators, being a former investment banker. It is ridiculous to assume that “one algorithm to fit and bind them all” will work - the main reason being that startups succeed not by being just like “the model startup” but by being DIFERENT. Go try capture difference.

    What I can suggest is set up a mock portfolio managed by this algorithm and see how it fares over 2-3 years against a managed early stage fund. In past, technical analysis funds in the open markets lasted about 2 years before going bankrupt.

  4. Rizwan Mallal said:

    I wonder if they have applied their algorithms on their own company to predicts its success.
    As one would say “eating your own dog food”.

  5. Michael Staton said:

    If you applied their methods to them they would be a sure bet.

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