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		<title>By: Twine Beta - No Semantic Web Secret Sauce &#171; PhilSpace</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/07/early-twine-review-twitter-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-801591</link>
		<dc:creator>Twine Beta - No Semantic Web Secret Sauce &#171; PhilSpace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But VentureBeat thinks: In fact, it’s the tagging that Twine revolves around. Take a look at the image to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Lindemann</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/07/early-twine-review-twitter-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-798209</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Lindemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi we have invested in a company called Imindi which I think you may find of interest. If Twine is about helping the individual and the group with organising their information using objective semantics, Imindi is about helping the individual and group with expanding their thoughts and extending their mind using organic and subjective semantics.

http://imindi.typepad.com/imindisaid/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi we have invested in a company called Imindi which I think you may find of interest. If Twine is about helping the individual and the group with organising their information using objective semantics, Imindi is about helping the individual and group with expanding their thoughts and extending their mind using organic and subjective semantics.</p>
<p><a href="http://imindi.typepad.com/imindisaid/" rel="nofollow">http://imindi.typepad.com/imindisaid/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Scott Lewis</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/07/early-twine-review-twitter-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-798130</link>
		<dc:creator>David Scott Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam I Am, you&#039;re absolutely right.  I&#039;ve been the most active Twinerian private beta tester and can tell you unequivocally that Twine is the first Web 3.0 company, although it&#039;s really much more than a mere generational advance from Web 2.0 to Web 3.0.  Hence, I don&#039;t like the Web 3.0 moniker for Twine; to me, Web 3.0 understates Twine.  Humility is a good thing, but a Web 3.0 moniker doesn&#039;t give the whole story, just part of it.

@Chris:  First, welcome to Twine ... and I&#039;m delighted that we&#039;re connected.  Please be sure to give my regards to Dean.  Second, great &quot;preview&quot; -- because this piece is more like a &quot;preview&quot; than a &quot;review&quot;.  You grasped the essence of Twine rather quickly.  However, let me challenge you on one very important (and potentially misleading) statement:  &quot;... some limited ability to &quot;think&quot; by cross-relating all of its accumulated information.&quot;  Limited?  Not true.  I would argue that this practically(-speaking) unlimited ability to think is one of Twine&#039;s key strengths and sustainable competitive advantages.  And it&#039;s this &quot;thinking&quot; that makes recommendations made by Twine a cut above anything else on the market.  It&#039;s a semweb recommender, not your father&#039;s recommender: It&#039;s way, way beyond &quot;standard&quot; collaborative filtering.

Some of us in the private beta and in a couple of the restricted Twines (Twine Product Community and Twine Evangelism, which I manage) have joked that Twine isn&#039;t quite &quot;artificial intelligence,&quot; but it&#039;s &quot;social software smarts&quot;.  Twine isn&#039;t HAL (as in HAL-9000), but it&#039;s not your everyday recommendation system or social network or wiki or threaded online discussion group platform or social bookmarking system, either.  It&#039;s ALL of these ... and more.  Stay tuned ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam I Am, you&#8217;re absolutely right.  I&#8217;ve been the most active Twinerian private beta tester and can tell you unequivocally that Twine is the first Web 3.0 company, although it&#8217;s really much more than a mere generational advance from Web 2.0 to Web 3.0.  Hence, I don&#8217;t like the Web 3.0 moniker for Twine; to me, Web 3.0 understates Twine.  Humility is a good thing, but a Web 3.0 moniker doesn&#8217;t give the whole story, just part of it.</p>
<p>@Chris:  First, welcome to Twine &#8230; and I&#8217;m delighted that we&#8217;re connected.  Please be sure to give my regards to Dean.  Second, great &#8220;preview&#8221; &#8212; because this piece is more like a &#8220;preview&#8221; than a &#8220;review&#8221;.  You grasped the essence of Twine rather quickly.  However, let me challenge you on one very important (and potentially misleading) statement:  &#8220;&#8230; some limited ability to &#8220;think&#8221; by cross-relating all of its accumulated information.&#8221;  Limited?  Not true.  I would argue that this practically(-speaking) unlimited ability to think is one of Twine&#8217;s key strengths and sustainable competitive advantages.  And it&#8217;s this &#8220;thinking&#8221; that makes recommendations made by Twine a cut above anything else on the market.  It&#8217;s a semweb recommender, not your father&#8217;s recommender: It&#8217;s way, way beyond &#8220;standard&#8221; collaborative filtering.</p>
<p>Some of us in the private beta and in a couple of the restricted Twines (Twine Product Community and Twine Evangelism, which I manage) have joked that Twine isn&#8217;t quite &#8220;artificial intelligence,&#8221; but it&#8217;s &#8220;social software smarts&#8221;.  Twine isn&#8217;t HAL (as in HAL-9000), but it&#8217;s not your everyday recommendation system or social network or wiki or threaded online discussion group platform or social bookmarking system, either.  It&#8217;s ALL of these &#8230; and more.  Stay tuned &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam I Am</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/07/early-twine-review-twitter-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-798113</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam I Am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twine could very easily be the first Web 3.0 company spawned.  It combines the power of both web 1.0 and the social graph-ing of web 2.0.  If they get it right, it might well be the first breakout hit of the next cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twine could very easily be the first Web 3.0 company spawned.  It combines the power of both web 1.0 and the social graph-ing of web 2.0.  If they get it right, it might well be the first breakout hit of the next cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: peter royal</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/07/early-twine-review-twitter-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-798054</link>
		<dc:creator>peter royal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@william .. you can get your data out, http://www.twine.com/tour/semantic

there are a lot tools out there now and under development for working with semantic data. you won&#039;t have the twine user interface, but you can use the same data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@william .. you can get your data out, <a href="http://www.twine.com/tour/semantic" rel="nofollow">http://www.twine.com/tour/semantic</a></p>
<p>there are a lot tools out there now and under development for working with semantic data. you won&#8217;t have the twine user interface, but you can use the same data.</p>
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		<title>By: Nova Spivack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nova Spivack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twine will be an advertising supported service at some point, and thus we will make use of our graph to provide highly relevant advertising to users. In this respect Twine will not be unlike Google or any other business that makes use of a graph, Web page context, or user behavior data to target ads. However we will NOT be handing advertisers personal or private data about any user. Your private data is PRIVATE. It&#039;s yours. We want to give you recommendations and other utility around what you teach us about your interests, but that&#039;s all. As for being able to get your data out -- the software doesn&#039;t have to be open source to enable this. We simply have to provide API&#039;s where you can get your data out in open standard based ontologies. This makes your data portable to other applications and reusable outside of Twine. And that is exactly what we will be doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twine will be an advertising supported service at some point, and thus we will make use of our graph to provide highly relevant advertising to users. In this respect Twine will not be unlike Google or any other business that makes use of a graph, Web page context, or user behavior data to target ads. However we will NOT be handing advertisers personal or private data about any user. Your private data is PRIVATE. It&#8217;s yours. We want to give you recommendations and other utility around what you teach us about your interests, but that&#8217;s all. As for being able to get your data out &#8212; the software doesn&#8217;t have to be open source to enable this. We simply have to provide API&#8217;s where you can get your data out in open standard based ontologies. This makes your data portable to other applications and reusable outside of Twine. And that is exactly what we will be doing.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/07/early-twine-review-twitter-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-798026</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twine seems to me to be a very good idea, and the appear to be executing on their vision.

One thing that I m wondering about is do I want to give information to a semantic product that is not open source. 
What will happen if Twine does something that allows advertisers to have access to my information with out my approval. Are there any access rules in Twine that would allow me to say who can and cannot have my information. 
What would happen if Twine were about to be purchased by Microsoft or Google and because of this I wanted to leave the service......I could leave the service....but because it is not Open Source I would not have anywhere to go....Open Source keeps companies honest and gives developers and members the possibility of having another option....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twine seems to me to be a very good idea, and the appear to be executing on their vision.</p>
<p>One thing that I m wondering about is do I want to give information to a semantic product that is not open source.<br />
What will happen if Twine does something that allows advertisers to have access to my information with out my approval. Are there any access rules in Twine that would allow me to say who can and cannot have my information.<br />
What would happen if Twine were about to be purchased by Microsoft or Google and because of this I wanted to leave the service&#8230;&#8230;I could leave the service&#8230;.but because it is not Open Source I would not have anywhere to go&#8230;.Open Source keeps companies honest and gives developers and members the possibility of having another option&#8230;.</p>
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