Comments on: Trouble in conference land: TechCrunch50, DEMO happening at the same time http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:43:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: TechCrunch50 Finalists Announced, Full List …Finally | Wise Startup Blog http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-827909 TechCrunch50 Finalists Announced, Full List …Finally | Wise Startup Blog Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:17:33 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-827909 [...] the delay in releasing the names of the TechCrunch50 finalists by TechCrunch Inc. and their squabble with DEMO, we’re finally seeing the full list of companies presenting. Our company is at [...] [...] the delay in releasing the names of the TechCrunch50 finalists by TechCrunch Inc. and their squabble with DEMO, we’re finally seeing the full list of companies presenting. Our company is at [...]

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]]> By: TechCrunch 50 vs Demo at Train Thoughts http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801496 TechCrunch 50 vs Demo at Train Thoughts Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:23:19 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801496 [...] looks like the TechCrunch 50 conference and Demo are overlapping their dates.  I suspect TC 50 will be huge and Demo will feel some pain.  Kind of like what [...] [...] looks like the TechCrunch 50 conference and Demo are overlapping their dates.  I suspect TC 50 will be huge and Demo will feel some pain.  Kind of like what [...]

]]> By: Jeremy Toeman’s LIVEdigitally » Blog Archive » To Demo/TC50 Organizers: Go Clean Up Your Mess http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801409 Jeremy Toeman’s LIVEdigitally » Blog Archive » To Demo/TC50 Organizers: Go Clean Up Your Mess Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:44:05 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801409 [...] posted last night on my marketing blog about how I feel marketeers will need to deal with the conference overlap situation.  As I’ve watched the news unfold, the following is [...] [...] posted last night on my marketing blog about how I feel marketeers will need to deal with the conference overlap situation.  As I’ve watched the news unfold, the following is [...]

]]> By: Jason Calacanis mobilizes Jason Nation to combat the forces of DEMO ¦ Online Media Cultist http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801405 Jason Calacanis mobilizes Jason Nation to combat the forces of DEMO ¦ Online Media Cultist Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:13:36 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801405 [...] The TechCrunch 50 versus DEMO battle is raging. [...] [...] The TechCrunch 50 versus DEMO battle is raging. [...]

]]> By: Mike Abundo http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801402 Mike Abundo Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:59:09 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801402 Hard to beat <em>free</em> and <em>bloggable.</em> Hard to beat free and bloggable.

]]> By: Anthony Ha http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801394 Anthony Ha Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:17:39 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801394 As Ivan Pope notes above, Arrington has been a bit more open about his intentions elsewhere on the web. On Twitter, for instance, he explained: "We went after [DEMO] last year. Now, it's just them trying to be associated with us." As Ivan Pope notes above, Arrington has been a bit more open about his intentions elsewhere on the web. On Twitter, for instance, he explained: “We went after [DEMO] last year. Now, it’s just them trying to be associated with us.”

]]> By: Aaron Mann http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801376 Aaron Mann Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:10:51 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801376 We were one of the companies faced with the "which conference" decision last year. From a company perspective the problem wasn't two conferences, it was that the Techcrunch40 selection process was weeks longer than the Demo selection process. It made for an interesting juggling act. This year, given current pricing, the selection is clear. Techcrunch50 has to be the choice unless as Ivan suggests above Demo radically alters it's game. The conferences sharing dates means press and investors can only be in one place. That is going to reduce press coverage for the startups significantly. Techcrunch50 will draw all the Bay Area VC's, leaving Demo the "out of towners". While it may be fun to watch this "battle of the startup conference" from the outside, the upshot is that this sucks for the startups at both conferences. We were one of the companies faced with the “which conference” decision last year. From a company perspective the problem wasn’t two conferences, it was that the Techcrunch40 selection process was weeks longer than the Demo selection process. It made for an interesting juggling act.

This year, given current pricing, the selection is clear. Techcrunch50 has to be the choice unless as Ivan suggests above Demo radically alters it’s game. The conferences sharing dates means press and investors can only be in one place. That is going to reduce press coverage for the startups significantly. Techcrunch50 will draw all the Bay Area VC’s, leaving Demo the “out of towners”.

While it may be fun to watch this “battle of the startup conference” from the outside, the upshot is that this sucks for the startups at both conferences.

]]> By: Private Equity HUB - peHUB First Read http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801362 Private Equity HUB - peHUB First Read Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:34:44 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801362 [...] TechCrunch50 vs. Demo. Edge: Blogs where each will advertise. [...] [...] TechCrunch50 vs. Demo. Edge: Blogs where each will advertise. [...]

]]> By: Ivan Pope http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801351 Ivan Pope Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:03:13 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801351 "Demo needs to die," Arrington said in the interview. "It's just an old-school model...It clearly involves pay to play, and what we're offering is better." It's not really that Demo needs to die, but what it does need to do is explain why it needs to charge $18,000 when Demo50 can do much the same for free. Demo's problem now is that it isn't a monopoly and should lose the monopoly pricing. A bold move would be for Demo to announce that the fees were waived. Then we would see a real head to head which would benefit everyone in the longer term. “Demo needs to die,” Arrington said in the interview. “It’s just an old-school model…It clearly involves pay to play, and what we’re offering is better.”

It’s not really that Demo needs to die, but what it does need to do is explain why it needs to charge $18,000 when Demo50 can do much the same for free.
Demo’s problem now is that it isn’t a monopoly and should lose the monopoly pricing. A bold move would be for Demo to announce that the fees were waived. Then we would see a real head to head which would benefit everyone in the longer term.

]]> By: metarand » DEMOcrunch: the ecosystem just sighed http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801350 metarand » DEMOcrunch: the ecosystem just sighed Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:00:06 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801350 [...] not going to get into the fray on this one, but Chris Shipley has given a considered response to Michael Arrington’s shot across [...] [...] not going to get into the fray on this one, but Chris Shipley has given a considered response to Michael Arrington’s shot across [...]

]]> By: antivc http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801331 antivc Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:40:14 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801331 anything that causes grief to VCs is good enough for me. these greedy yuppies and their sense of entitlement - the heck with that. i'm 4 square behind chis on this one anything that causes grief to VCs is good enough for me. these greedy yuppies and their sense of entitlement – the heck with that. i’m 4 square behind chis on this one

]]> By: Ferodynamics http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801322 Ferodynamics Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:13:03 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801322 Seems like a waste of time, either your startup starts or it doesn't, a conference won't increase your traffic. You might get a few hits to your page, big deal. Seems like a waste of time, either your startup starts or it doesn’t, a conference won’t increase your traffic. You might get a few hits to your page, big deal.

]]> By: DemoCrunch 2008| Zoli’s Blog http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801308 DemoCrunch 2008| Zoli’s Blog Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:25:07 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801308 [...] VentureBeat attempts to (well, sort of) explain it with scheduling, but make no mistake, this is a fairly open move against DemoFall, to establish TechCrunch50 as the premier startup launch event.  There’s no question that TechCrunch can pull in just about the entire VC community - in fact given the audience pricing, $2000 early bird, and $3000 regular, it’s hard to believe anyone but VCs can afford to attend.  Well, VCs and students, as those with a student ID can get in for $149. [...] [...] VentureBeat attempts to (well, sort of) explain it with scheduling, but make no mistake, this is a fairly open move against DemoFall, to establish TechCrunch50 as the premier startup launch event.  There’s no question that TechCrunch can pull in just about the entire VC community – in fact given the audience pricing, $2000 early bird, and $3000 regular, it’s hard to believe anyone but VCs can afford to attend.  Well, VCs and students, as those with a student ID can get in for $149. [...]

]]> By: Imitation Is Flattery? Or Just Bad for Entrepreneurs? « The Guidewire http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-801307 Imitation Is Flattery? Or Just Bad for Entrepreneurs? « The Guidewire Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:10:49 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/02/trouble-in-conference-land-techcrunch-goes-head-to-head-with-demo/#comment-801307 [...] as I told VentureBeat’s Chris Morrison this afternoon, I’m baffled by TechCrunch’s decision to put its event [...] [...] as I told VentureBeat’s Chris Morrison this afternoon, I’m baffled by TechCrunch’s decision to put its event [...]

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