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		<title>By: abercrombie622</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/22/search-wikia-takes-a-step-closer-to-search-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-896040</link>
		<dc:creator>abercrombie622</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Search Wikia returns for more punishment with new features &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Search Wikia returns for more punishment with new features &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were a bit nicer).  A new release today is adding a slew of features to the engine (some of which we previewed back in April). Users can now edit results extensively. They can modify the title and summary (seen below), add [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were a bit nicer).  A new release today is adding a slew of features to the engine (some of which we previewed back in April). Users can now edit results extensively. They can modify the title and summary (seen below), add [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not advocating for Mahalo either; as Brandon points out, creating a page for each possible search simply doesn&#039;t scale. Brandon&#039;s approach is at least plausible from a scale perspective, though I&#039;m not sure whether the quality of a rule-based search engine will be competitive.

Some of my thoughts on the state of web search (and a comparison with search in the enterprise) are &lt;a href=&quot;http://thenoisychannel.blogspot.com/2008/04/can-search-be-utility.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted here on my blog&lt;/a&gt;.

In the short term, I think keyword search + Wikipedia is working reasonably well for web search. In the long term, I&#039;d like to see an approach to web search that overcomes the adversarial issue of spam without resorting to obscurity. But I don&#039;t think anyone has cracked that nut yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not advocating for Mahalo either; as Brandon points out, creating a page for each possible search simply doesn&#8217;t scale. Brandon&#8217;s approach is at least plausible from a scale perspective, though I&#8217;m not sure whether the quality of a rule-based search engine will be competitive.</p>
<p>Some of my thoughts on the state of web search (and a comparison with search in the enterprise) are <a href="http://thenoisychannel.blogspot.com/2008/04/can-search-be-utility.html" rel="nofollow">posted here on my blog</a>.</p>
<p>In the short term, I think keyword search + Wikipedia is working reasonably well for web search. In the long term, I&#8217;d like to see an approach to web search that overcomes the adversarial issue of spam without resorting to obscurity. But I don&#8217;t think anyone has cracked that nut yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Wirtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Wirtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think and am &quot;Betting the farm&quot; on being half way between Mahalo and Wikia, but limiting the people able to tweak results to a small fold.  The problem with letting anyone tweak your results is the same problem wikipedia had early on, that there was too much incentive to point to spam.

Wikia is really painfully slow. Hopefully they will fix that, but the results were also not &quot;stellar&quot; especially if you tried whole phrases, rather than single terms.  Mahalo suffers from this as well.  Mahalo can never be your only search engine because if you take any phrase and add the word Competitor, or clone to it you get nothing.  You can&#039;t do a search for &quot;Whole Foods Competitor&quot; or &quot;iPod Clone&quot; or even &quot;php foreach&quot; and likely you never will be becasue you can&#039;t hit the edge cases.

Instead focusing on creating results tuned for huge classes of topics is where I am putting my time.  Today I added 24k &quot;modifiers&quot; to our search for the top prescription drugs of 2002.  I&#039;d have liked this to be of 2007, but the truth is I take open data where I can get it, and there was a government report that had this data and so I manipulated it, and built rules around it.  Tomorrow who knows what the next 10k rules will be for, but my changes effect 24k pages I know about, and 240+k that I don&#039;t about drug interactions, and disease results.  Not one entry at a time 100&#039;s of thousands at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think and am &#8220;Betting the farm&#8221; on being half way between Mahalo and Wikia, but limiting the people able to tweak results to a small fold.  The problem with letting anyone tweak your results is the same problem wikipedia had early on, that there was too much incentive to point to spam.</p>
<p>Wikia is really painfully slow. Hopefully they will fix that, but the results were also not &#8220;stellar&#8221; especially if you tried whole phrases, rather than single terms.  Mahalo suffers from this as well.  Mahalo can never be your only search engine because if you take any phrase and add the word Competitor, or clone to it you get nothing.  You can&#8217;t do a search for &#8220;Whole Foods Competitor&#8221; or &#8220;iPod Clone&#8221; or even &#8220;php foreach&#8221; and likely you never will be becasue you can&#8217;t hit the edge cases.</p>
<p>Instead focusing on creating results tuned for huge classes of topics is where I am putting my time.  Today I added 24k &#8220;modifiers&#8221; to our search for the top prescription drugs of 2002.  I&#8217;d have liked this to be of 2007, but the truth is I take open data where I can get it, and there was a government report that had this data and so I manipulated it, and built rules around it.  Tomorrow who knows what the next 10k rules will be for, but my changes effect 24k pages I know about, and 240+k that I don&#8217;t about drug interactions, and disease results.  Not one entry at a time 100&#8217;s of thousands at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Wikia Search更加向维基百科靠拢 &#124; SilenceWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wikia Search更加向维基百科靠拢 &#124; SilenceWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VentureBeat今天拿到了一个Wikia Search新功能的测试链接，总的感觉是编辑性越来越强，更加向维基百科（wikipedia）的方向靠拢。下面是我用这个测试链接搜索barack obama的截图，大家可以和wikia search刚上线时候的样子对比一下。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] VentureBeat今天拿到了一个Wikia Search新功能的测试链接，总的感觉是编辑性越来越强，更加向维基百科（wikipedia）的方向靠拢。下面是我用这个测试链接搜索barack obama的截图，大家可以和wikia search刚上线时候的样子对比一下。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MG Siegler</title>
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		<dc:creator>MG Siegler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel - so you&#039;re more in favor of the Mahalo approach then?

Some interesting points. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel &#8211; so you&#8217;re more in favor of the Mahalo approach then?</p>
<p>Some interesting points. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Taking the Bridge &#187; Wikia.com vs. Stumpedia.com vs. Mahalo.com vs. ISayHello.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taking the Bridge &#187; Wikia.com vs. Stumpedia.com vs. Mahalo.com vs. ISayHello.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Venturebeat - Search Wikia takes a step closer to the promise of &#8217;search meets Wikipedia&#8217; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mathewingram.com/work &#124; Wikia Search: Edit anything and everything</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathewingram.com/work &#124; Wikia Search: Edit anything and everything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] click to go to an incomprehensible &#8220;edit&#8221; page with weird wiki commands for links. You just click and edit. Whether Wikia Search can develop the same kind of community of editors and overlords that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/22/search-wikia-takes-a-step-closer-to-search-meets-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-805461</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I see the Wikipedia meme here, annotating the results &quot;page&quot; for a search query strikes me as a bad idea. Rather than building up a store of information for an individual search query, why not cultivate a Wikipedia page instead--since any sufficiently popular search query probably has (or should have an associated page?

I don&#039;t agree with a lot of Google&#039;s approach to relevance ranking (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://thenoisychannel.blogspot.com/2008/04/q-with-amit-singhal.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my brief debate with Amit Singhal&lt;/a&gt;). But I think Google is right to avoid tweaking with individual queries. Search tuned on a per-query basis is not a scalable approach, and at best reduces to the Wikipedia we already have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I see the Wikipedia meme here, annotating the results &#8220;page&#8221; for a search query strikes me as a bad idea. Rather than building up a store of information for an individual search query, why not cultivate a Wikipedia page instead&#8211;since any sufficiently popular search query probably has (or should have an associated page?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with a lot of Google&#8217;s approach to relevance ranking (see <a href="http://thenoisychannel.blogspot.com/2008/04/q-with-amit-singhal.html" rel="nofollow">my brief debate with Amit Singhal</a>). But I think Google is right to avoid tweaking with individual queries. Search tuned on a per-query basis is not a scalable approach, and at best reduces to the Wikipedia we already have.</p>
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