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	<title>Comments on: Yodlee takes large financing &#8212; could spell trouble for Mint</title>
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		<title>By: tetsuotrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>tetsuotrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone else that has access to &quot;the pipes&quot; would make sense as a suitor should anything happen to put &lt;a href=&quot;http://Mint.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mint.com&lt;/a&gt;, Wesabe or Geezeo in play (e.g. Yodlee or CashEdge deciding to go direct-to-consumer in a big way) - but wouldn&#039;t it be an extraordinary slap in the face to an Intuit or a Microsoft should they decide they have to buy one of these upstarts?  eBay is a very interesting possibility, though - I&#039;m shocked they aren&#039;t doing something in this area already...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ultimately these plays will be about who owns the customer relationship - the closer you are to products and to key functionality, the better your chances of creating meaningful value will be.  I am a big fan of what the guys at &lt;a href=&quot;http://Mint.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mint.com&lt;/a&gt; are doing, but nothing they&#039;ve built is critical in the way a checking account is.  And all the analytical tools in the world can&#039;t close that gap absent some other kind of &quot;critical&quot; service.  It will be very fun to watch this space develop.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;re: Yodlee&#039;s valuation, as Chris mentioned, the previous round essentially wiped the slate clean.  It would be somewhat surprising if this round was down (given that the business seems to be performing decently well) but I seem to recall that the last one was.  The last time I heard Anil speak in a meeting (nearly two years ago) he was convinced he had a $bn+ company on his hands - I certainly hope he gets there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone else that has access to &#8220;the pipes&#8221; would make sense as a suitor should anything happen to put <a href="http://Mint.com" rel="nofollow">Mint.com</a>, Wesabe or Geezeo in play (e.g. Yodlee or CashEdge deciding to go direct-to-consumer in a big way) &#8211; but wouldn&#39;t it be an extraordinary slap in the face to an Intuit or a Microsoft should they decide they have to buy one of these upstarts?  eBay is a very interesting possibility, though &#8211; I&#39;m shocked they aren&#39;t doing something in this area already&#8230;</p>
<p>Ultimately these plays will be about who owns the customer relationship &#8211; the closer you are to products and to key functionality, the better your chances of creating meaningful value will be.  I am a big fan of what the guys at <a href="http://Mint.com" rel="nofollow">Mint.com</a> are doing, but nothing they&#39;ve built is critical in the way a checking account is.  And all the analytical tools in the world can&#39;t close that gap absent some other kind of &#8220;critical&#8221; service.  It will be very fun to watch this space develop.</p>
<p>re: Yodlee&#39;s valuation, as Chris mentioned, the previous round essentially wiped the slate clean.  It would be somewhat surprising if this round was down (given that the business seems to be performing decently well) but I seem to recall that the last one was.  The last time I heard Anil speak in a meeting (nearly two years ago) he was convinced he had a $bn+ company on his hands &#8211; I certainly hope he gets there.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested to know whether that&#039;s inside knowledge or speculation. I&#039;d be inclined to think it&#039;s an up round, if only because the last one before it was a recap, and it sounds like the VC investors more or less took control of the company at that time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tend to be more suspicious of motives when companies -do- talk about their valuation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d be interested to know whether that&#39;s inside knowledge or speculation. I&#39;d be inclined to think it&#39;s an up round, if only because the last one before it was a recap, and it sounds like the VC investors more or less took control of the company at that time.</p>
<p>I tend to be more suspicious of motives when companies -do- talk about their valuation.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I know of. From what I understand, they started out doing something close to what they do now, in 1999. Yodlee is a pretty anonymous name, could have been something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I know of. From what I understand, they started out doing something close to what they do now, in 1999. Yodlee is a pretty anonymous name, could have been something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave: Agreed, and I don&#039;t think Mint is necessarily at risk, given its high profile.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also don&#039;t think Yodlee will decide to compete directly, as it were. That&#039;s up to the banks. I think there -is- a little built-in arrogance in the web developer group (not to mention my own group, web media) that the old guard -- established industry -- will never figure out the game. That&#039;s not true; it just takes time, and the banks are in a much better position to grow the market. They start out with the users. All they have to do is not lose them. And for the most part, the independent sites don&#039;t have a lot of traction yet.. even Mint is pretty small, comparatively.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, there are also investment services to look at. If anything, it seems more likely that one of them might want to acquire a Mint or Geezeo outright. Makes plenty of sense for their customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave: Agreed, and I don&#39;t think Mint is necessarily at risk, given its high profile.</p>
<p>I also don&#39;t think Yodlee will decide to compete directly, as it were. That&#39;s up to the banks. I think there -is- a little built-in arrogance in the web developer group (not to mention my own group, web media) that the old guard &#8212; established industry &#8212; will never figure out the game. That&#39;s not true; it just takes time, and the banks are in a much better position to grow the market. They start out with the users. All they have to do is not lose them. And for the most part, the independent sites don&#39;t have a lot of traction yet.. even Mint is pretty small, comparatively.</p>
<p>Of course, there are also investment services to look at. If anything, it seems more likely that one of them might want to acquire a Mint or Geezeo outright. Makes plenty of sense for their customers.</p>
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		<title>By: J.O.D</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.O.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Yodlee used to do consumer device-sync services and software?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#39;t Yodlee used to do consumer device-sync services and software?</p>
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		<title>By: davemc500hats</title>
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		<dc:creator>davemc500hats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[disclosure:  i am a mint investor &amp; advisor]. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; i have been a Yodlee user for over 5years.  both services are useful, altho Mint now provides a well-designed front-end &amp; additional services such as saving suggestions &amp; other spending tips &amp; reports, in addition to those it gets via its partnership with Yodlee.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;UI &amp; other bells &amp; whistles aside, should Yodlee decide to enter the fray directly, my guess is that Mint would likely become a very interesting acquisition target by any of the larger financial service providers (Intuit, Yahoo, Microsoft, eBay/PayPal, or Google).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;so while there could be competition ahead, there is probably also likely consolidation due to the potential for the category, applied to larger user audiences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(or at least as an investor, that would be my optimistic take on this scenario... more likely tho, Mint &amp; other startups just end up being more nimble than the larger players, and therefore more &amp; more attractive down the road)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[disclosure:  i am a mint investor &#038; advisor]. </p>
<p> i have been a Yodlee user for over 5years.  both services are useful, altho Mint now provides a well-designed front-end &#038; additional services such as saving suggestions &#038; other spending tips &#038; reports, in addition to those it gets via its partnership with Yodlee.</p>
<p>UI &#038; other bells &#038; whistles aside, should Yodlee decide to enter the fray directly, my guess is that Mint would likely become a very interesting acquisition target by any of the larger financial service providers (Intuit, Yahoo, Microsoft, eBay/PayPal, or Google).</p>
<p>so while there could be competition ahead, there is probably also likely consolidation due to the potential for the category, applied to larger user audiences.</p>
<p>(or at least as an investor, that would be my optimistic take on this scenario&#8230; more likely tho, Mint &#038; other startups just end up being more nimble than the larger players, and therefore more &#038; more attractive down the road)</p>
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		<title>By: Life Support</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life Support</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a downround. Notice how they didn&#039;t talk about the valuation of the round AT ALL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a downround. Notice how they didn&#39;t talk about the valuation of the round AT ALL!</p>
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		<title>By: the money motivator</title>
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		<dc:creator>the money motivator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the trouble with trouble is that it start out as fun</title>
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		<dc:creator>the trouble with trouble is that it start out as fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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