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		<title>By: Research / Been Gone, Back from Iraq &#171; Grey Matter</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/comment-page-1/#comment-832316</link>
		<dc:creator>Research / Been Gone, Back from Iraq &#171; Grey Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Latest MobileBeat2008 additions: Facebook&#8217;s Jed Stremel, MySpace&#8217;s Brandon Lucas, Skydeck&#8217;s Jason Devitt &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/comment-page-1/#comment-820519</link>
		<dc:creator>Latest MobileBeat2008 additions: Facebook&#8217;s Jed Stremel, MySpace&#8217;s Brandon Lucas, Skydeck&#8217;s Jason Devitt &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the start-up community well. He holds a U.S. patent related to location-based services (see his recent column for VentureBeat). He blogs at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the start-up community well. He holds a U.S. patent related to location-based services (see his recent column for VentureBeat). He blogs at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile 2.0: Rummble, Zipiko and Dial2do shine, but venture captialists express caution &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mobile 2.0: Rummble, Zipiko and Dial2do shine, but venture captialists express caution &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apple iPhone and Google Android projects were only touched on briefly. Also, I heard little of the arguments being put forward by the current-day optimists. So I am still wondering: Is now the right time to make it really big in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apple iPhone and Google Android projects were only touched on briefly. Also, I heard little of the arguments being put forward by the current-day optimists. So I am still wondering: Is now the right time to make it really big in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Five trends driving the mobile web &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five trends driving the mobile web &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last few months the 3G iPhone and its location-based service (LBS) potential gathered a lot of positive PR. Traction remains small, although some enterprise tracking companies seem to do relatively well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the last few months the 3G iPhone and its location-based service (LBS) potential gathered a lot of positive PR. Traction remains small, although some enterprise tracking companies seem to do relatively well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luffemann</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/comment-page-1/#comment-875677</link>
		<dc:creator>Luffemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matthaus,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Feel free to contact me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Lasse.Larsen@bipibp.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lasse.Larsen@bipibp.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matthaus,</p>
<p>Feel free to contact me.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:Lasse.Larsen@bipibp.com" rel="nofollow">Lasse.Larsen@bipibp.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luffemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luffemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently away and not checking my email. I will respond as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently away and not checking my email. I will respond as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: matthaus</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/comment-page-1/#comment-875675</link>
		<dc:creator>matthaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Luffemann,&lt;br&gt;you can send me an email about pibpib directly, I am curious. matthaeus at &lt;a href=&quot;http://hmmaha.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hmmaha.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Luffemann,<br />you can send me an email about pibpib directly, I am curious. matthaeus at <a href="http://hmmaha.com" rel="nofollow">hmmaha.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luffemann</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/comment-page-1/#comment-875674</link>
		<dc:creator>Luffemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should check out &quot;pre&quot;-(alpha-release) &lt;a href=&quot;http://pibpib.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pibpib.com&lt;/a&gt; -tomorrow (monday, 12:00 (cet+2))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should check out &#8220;pre&#8221;-(alpha-release) <a href="http://pibpib.com" rel="nofollow">http://pibpib.com</a> -tomorrow (monday, 12:00 (cet+2))</p>
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		<title>By: Location buzz continues: Nokia buys Plazes, Verizon backs Loopt &#38; NIW &#187; VentureBeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Location buzz continues: Nokia buys Plazes, Verizon backs Loopt &#38; NIW &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] useful services. Various writers have recently opined at VentureBeat about location-based services (here and here). In fact, at this point, it may be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] useful services. Various writers have recently opined at VentureBeat about location-based services (here and here). In fact, at this point, it may be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Devitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Devitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marshall, thanks.  I wasn&#039;t attempting to list the top companies in the industry, just give some examples.  You are right that Networks in Motion is a standout, the market leader by some measures.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I stand by my remarks on Loopt - great team, great app.  I don&#039;t think that counts as falling for the hype.  Forget about location for a moment; it&#039;s almost impossible to make a social app work when you are live on just one or two carriers, because I can&#039;t invite my friends to use it unless we are all on the same carrier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marshall, thanks.  I wasn&#39;t attempting to list the top companies in the industry, just give some examples.  You are right that Networks in Motion is a standout, the market leader by some measures.  </p>
<p>I stand by my remarks on Loopt &#8211; great team, great app.  I don&#39;t think that counts as falling for the hype.  Forget about location for a moment; it&#39;s almost impossible to make a social app work when you are live on just one or two carriers, because I can&#39;t invite my friends to use it unless we are all on the same carrier.</p>
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		<title>By: a l t wireline solutions</title>
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		<dc:creator>a l t wireline solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with maps and local information, but our vision was much broader: A location-aware phone connehttp://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/ Evolving Systems Appoints Stuart Cochran as Chief Technology OfficerENGLEWOOD, Colorado ?? Evolving [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with maps and local information, but our vision was much broader: A location-aware phone connehttp://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/ Evolving Systems Appoints Stuart Cochran as Chief Technology OfficerENGLEWOOD, Colorado ?? Evolving [...]</p>
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		<title>By: matthaus</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/comment-page-1/#comment-875672</link>
		<dc:creator>matthaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marshall,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks for you comments.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Before the Stevenote we had a lot of debates at Venturebeat on what&#039;s flesh and what&#039;s hype behind the 3G Iphone. We talked to a lot of experts, too. One thing became clear: we need to give  some people experienced with LBS a voice at Venturebeat. We felt that this is missing in the debate. The articles of Jason Devitt and Manlio Allegria are examples of us trying to broaden the discussion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mind you, we are aware of the success of LBS apps have in sales. NIM, TeleNav Mobile, also Wavemarket have been in the Top 10 for a long time.  The context for our recent coverage, however, was LBS and the 3G Iphone. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For us there are at least 2 big questions nobody has answered yet related to LBS &amp; the 3G Iphone: Is the technology behind the 3G Iphone good enough for LBS to succeed ? Does the 3G Iphone mean that somebody finally cracks LBS mobile advertising ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These two question are one of the questions Loopt&#039;s success depends on, we think. Expect Venturebeat to ask these questions when needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marshall,</p>
<p>thanks for you comments.</p>
<p>Before the Stevenote we had a lot of debates at Venturebeat on what&#39;s flesh and what&#39;s hype behind the 3G Iphone. We talked to a lot of experts, too. One thing became clear: we need to give  some people experienced with LBS a voice at Venturebeat. We felt that this is missing in the debate. The articles of Jason Devitt and Manlio Allegria are examples of us trying to broaden the discussion.</p>
<p>Mind you, we are aware of the success of LBS apps have in sales. NIM, TeleNav Mobile, also Wavemarket have been in the Top 10 for a long time.  The context for our recent coverage, however, was LBS and the 3G Iphone. </p>
<p>For us there are at least 2 big questions nobody has answered yet related to LBS &#038; the 3G Iphone: Is the technology behind the 3G Iphone good enough for LBS to succeed ? Does the 3G Iphone mean that somebody finally cracks LBS mobile advertising ?</p>
<p>These two question are one of the questions Loopt&#39;s success depends on, we think. Expect Venturebeat to ask these questions when needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/comment-page-1/#comment-875671</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason - great article.  I actually thought the Vindigo zagat lbs app you launched on palm yrs ago is still better than most of stuff out there.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why, Loopt?   Why do you fall for their hype? They are making no traction with end consumers: &lt;30,000 subs and they have been around for 3 yrs.  They are performing poorly at Sprint and Boost spent millions of advertising and i heard the uptake is poor.  You didnt even mention Networks in Motion - the LBS navigation company that does the Verizon product which will supposedly do $40M in revenue this year.  Televigation is actually a great story - founder CEO HP Jin is Chinese Immigrant who started the company in 1999 went through some serious rough times and emerged as a powerhouse company that also will do a ton of revenue this year and is worth hundreds of millions. I have heard all my VC friends rave about the wavemarket guys and the way they dominate their space and are building a profitable business.  All of these companies are LBS survivors who adapted to tough life with carriers.  Yet, you choose to applaud Loopt?  No subs, no revenue, lots of hype.  I guess in Silicon Valley it is sometimes difficult to differentiate between hype and greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason &#8211; great article.  I actually thought the Vindigo zagat lbs app you launched on palm yrs ago is still better than most of stuff out there.  </p>
<p>Why, Loopt?   Why do you fall for their hype? They are making no traction with end consumers: &lt;30,000 subs and they have been around for 3 yrs.  They are performing poorly at Sprint and Boost spent millions of advertising and i heard the uptake is poor.  You didnt even mention Networks in Motion &#8211; the LBS navigation company that does the Verizon product which will supposedly do $40M in revenue this year.  Televigation is actually a great story &#8211; founder CEO HP Jin is Chinese Immigrant who started the company in 1999 went through some serious rough times and emerged as a powerhouse company that also will do a ton of revenue this year and is worth hundreds of millions. I have heard all my VC friends rave about the wavemarket guys and the way they dominate their space and are building a profitable business.  All of these companies are LBS survivors who adapted to tough life with carriers.  Yet, you choose to applaud Loopt?  No subs, no revenue, lots of hype.  I guess in Silicon Valley it is sometimes difficult to differentiate between hype and greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: prepaid phone</title>
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		<dc:creator>prepaid phone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with maps and local information, but our vision was much broader: A location-aware phone connehttp://venturebeat.com/2008/06/14/iphone-3g-heralds-new-day-for-location-based-services/The Convenience In Using A Prepaid Phone Card In Making Calls Turks.USInstead of using a standard [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Verizon cell phones - SmartSynch and Exceleron Partner to Enable Utilities to Offer Prepaid - Consumer Electronics Net &#124; Cell Phones &#124; Information On Cell Phones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verizon cell phones - SmartSynch and Exceleron Partner to Enable Utilities to Offer Prepaid - Consumer Electronics Net &#124; Cell Phones &#124; Information On Cell Phones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When I started my first mobile internet company nine years ago, my partner and I were most excited by the potential for location-based applications. We started with maps and local information, but our vision was much broader: A location-aware phone Learn More  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When I started my first mobile internet company nine years ago, my partner and I were most excited by the potential for location-based applications. We started with maps and local information, but our vision was much broader: A location-aware phone Learn More  [...]</p>
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