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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile does the talk: Third party applications will be able to get on its app store “in days&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: matthaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dennis,&lt;br&gt;thanks for the comments. We also had a look at the +220 pages of the terms and conditions yesterday and I agree with most of your summary. I think its discussion is valuable to our readers, - so check out Dennis&#039; post, it&#039;s worth your time if you are interested in Android. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one point where I disagree with you is &quot;poorer revenue share than the Apple App Store&quot;. Here&#039;s my pricing/market estimate. I think some apps will do better, some worse. Those with little data consumption, say something like Omnifocus, will do better. Those with higher data consumption, say anything video, will do worse. This is the price part. The Android project has also got mass market potential - which the iPhone does not. I also assume that the development environment is superior on Android. So I expect something like Omnifocus to be superior on Android in comparison to Apple and therefore the app to sell much better on Android. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I talked to a couple of carrier reps at a conference two months ago and based on that I assume that this flexible pricing model will become very important in the next few months. They want data/bandwidth costs included in pricing models. I would not be surprised if Apple is forced to change their model in that direction in the next 1-2 years, either. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On a more general note, the story continues to unfold and I think the exciting stuff is more likely to be found in the details like this T&amp;C document, and less likely in fluffy marketing. Still, right now, there&#039;s lot of room to speculate. Personally, I like commentators who manage to look at the tech and are able to argue industry effects out of that tech. That&#039;s why we already included Billard&#039;s post in our roundup. I like Matt Maroon&#039; posts on Android like that one (&lt;a href=&quot;http://mattmaroon.com/?p=476&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mattmaroon.com/?p=476&lt;/a&gt;), for example, too. Anyone with some other reading suggestions ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dennis,<br />thanks for the comments. We also had a look at the +220 pages of the terms and conditions yesterday and I agree with most of your summary. I think its discussion is valuable to our readers, &#8211; so check out Dennis&#39; post, it&#39;s worth your time if you are interested in Android. </p>
<p>The one point where I disagree with you is &#8220;poorer revenue share than the Apple App Store&#8221;. Here&#39;s my pricing/market estimate. I think some apps will do better, some worse. Those with little data consumption, say something like Omnifocus, will do better. Those with higher data consumption, say anything video, will do worse. This is the price part. The Android project has also got mass market potential &#8211; which the iPhone does not. I also assume that the development environment is superior on Android. So I expect something like Omnifocus to be superior on Android in comparison to Apple and therefore the app to sell much better on Android. </p>
<p>I talked to a couple of carrier reps at a conference two months ago and based on that I assume that this flexible pricing model will become very important in the next few months. They want data/bandwidth costs included in pricing models. I would not be surprised if Apple is forced to change their model in that direction in the next 1-2 years, either. </p>
<p>On a more general note, the story continues to unfold and I think the exciting stuff is more likely to be found in the details like this T&#038;C document, and less likely in fluffy marketing. Still, right now, there&#39;s lot of room to speculate. Personally, I like commentators who manage to look at the tech and are able to argue industry effects out of that tech. That&#39;s why we already included Billard&#39;s post in our roundup. I like Matt Maroon&#39; posts on Android like that one (<a href="http://mattmaroon.com/?p=476" rel="nofollow">http://mattmaroon.com/?p=476</a>), for example, too. Anyone with some other reading suggestions ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Bournique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Bournique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that DevPartner has launched and the terms and conditions are public, I&#039;m disapointed. Admittedly it&#039;s an improvemt in dealing with US opperators compared with the status quo. However, there&#039;s much about it that I think will limit adoption:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* No games allowed&lt;br&gt;* Mandatory signing and certification at the publisher&#039;s expense, even for free apps&lt;br&gt;* No advertising allowed&lt;br&gt;* Poorer revenue share than the Apple App Store espcially  after T-Mobile&#039;s chargebacks for returns and data use.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=390&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=390&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that DevPartner has launched and the terms and conditions are public, I&#39;m disapointed. Admittedly it&#39;s an improvemt in dealing with US opperators compared with the status quo. However, there&#39;s much about it that I think will limit adoption:</p>
<p>* No games allowed<br />* Mandatory signing and certification at the publisher&#39;s expense, even for free apps<br />* No advertising allowed<br />* Poorer revenue share than the Apple App Store espcially  after T-Mobile&#39;s chargebacks for returns and data use.</p>
<p>More here: <a href="http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=390" rel="nofollow">http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=390</a></p>
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