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	<title>Comments on: Should Amazon be worried about iPhone readers like Stanza? In a word, yes</title>
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		<title>By: edhardy622</title>
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		<dc:creator>edhardy622</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>British law student sues Abercrombie-Fitch for disability discrimination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abercrombieonsale.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abercrombieonsale.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe digital distribution of book will never dominate over physical distribution, but I dont think Amazon will be too worried about Stanza. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just as you have digital camera specifically for taking pictures, there will (and should be) always be a device specifically for reading book. E-book readers do have a place in the market, and having an e-book reading app on the iPhone wont change that. Its just as having a camera on you phone, its good to have, but it wont ever replace your digital camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe digital distribution of book will never dominate over physical distribution, but I dont think Amazon will be too worried about Stanza. </p>
<p>Just as you have digital camera specifically for taking pictures, there will (and should be) always be a device specifically for reading book. E-book readers do have a place in the market, and having an e-book reading app on the iPhone wont change that. Its just as having a camera on you phone, its good to have, but it wont ever replace your digital camera.</p>
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		<title>By: joewxboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>joewxboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something to keep in mind here is that a success for Stanza is still a win for Amazon.  Amazon owns Mobipocket, which sells eBooks in a format that Stanza can read.  What&#039;s happened here is that Stanza did all the development work for Amazon that allowed them to begin selling eBooks on both the Kindle AND the iPhone.  What&#039;s funny about the whole thing is that Stanza did it for free and Amazon makes a profit on all the books that are sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something to keep in mind here is that a success for Stanza is still a win for Amazon.  Amazon owns Mobipocket, which sells eBooks in a format that Stanza can read.  What&#39;s happened here is that Stanza did all the development work for Amazon that allowed them to begin selling eBooks on both the Kindle AND the iPhone.  What&#39;s funny about the whole thing is that Stanza did it for free and Amazon makes a profit on all the books that are sold.</p>
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		<title>By: 300,000 Stanza users via iPhones and iPod Touches: Up from 85K in about five weeks &#124; TeleRead: Bring the E-Books Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>300,000 Stanza users via iPhones and iPod Touches: Up from 85K in about five weeks &#124; TeleRead: Bring the E-Books Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comparison to Kindle numbers has been made in articles like this, and the numbers have exceeded all our wildest expectations. Granted, the comparisons cannot be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve experimented with both Stanza and the Fictionwise apps, which both present ideal reading environments in small bursts - I couldn&#039;t imagine reading a whole book on there (or the iPhone&#039;s battery supporting such reading for extended periods). What about short stories or first chapters? I think that would be a natural fit. Given away for free, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve experimented with both Stanza and the Fictionwise apps, which both present ideal reading environments in small bursts &#8211; I couldn&#39;t imagine reading a whole book on there (or the iPhone&#39;s battery supporting such reading for extended periods). What about short stories or first chapters? I think that would be a natural fit. Given away for free, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph A. di Paolantonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph A. di Paolantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well... not really, or at least not always.  I buy the hardbounds or even the leatherbound from Easton Press.  I often buy the eBook, from &lt;a href=&quot;http://eReader.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eReader.com&lt;/a&gt; with their discounts or bundles or after the price has dropped into the 3 - 5 US$ range.  And as I look at my 2000+ books, I do have multiple special editions of some books or series.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I love books, and have since a neighbor gave me a Tom Swift Jr when I was 5.  &#039;Tis just now, at 52, I truly prefer to read eBooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep <img src='http://venturebeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well&#8230; not really, or at least not always.  I buy the hardbounds or even the leatherbound from Easton Press.  I often buy the eBook, from <a href="http://eReader.com" rel="nofollow">eReader.com</a> with their discounts or bundles or after the price has dropped into the 3 &#8211; 5 US$ range.  And as I look at my 2000+ books, I do have multiple special editions of some books or series.</p>
<p>I love books, and have since a neighbor gave me a Tom Swift Jr when I was 5.  &#39;Tis just now, at 52, I truly prefer to read eBooks.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Hey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems on an iPhone or WinMo or Pocket PC device - I&#039;ve used both Stanza and Microsoft Reader plus even MS Word (Pocket Edition) is that your hand gets tired of scrolling. Nevertheless I have read books - mainly off an old Project Gutenberg CD I bought for an old PC ages ago with classics on it.  I did have an app - I think an encyclopedia SD card that had automatic scrolling on Win CE (Pocket PC HP Jornada) and that enhanced reading on a small device considerably. I know many like the clear type on the Kindle, but I am very happy with the small form factor and can read in the dark on my iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems on an iPhone or WinMo or Pocket PC device &#8211; I&#39;ve used both Stanza and Microsoft Reader plus even MS Word (Pocket Edition) is that your hand gets tired of scrolling. Nevertheless I have read books &#8211; mainly off an old Project Gutenberg CD I bought for an old PC ages ago with classics on it.  I did have an app &#8211; I think an encyclopedia SD card that had automatic scrolling on Win CE (Pocket PC HP Jornada) and that enhanced reading on a small device considerably. I know many like the clear type on the Kindle, but I am very happy with the small form factor and can read in the dark on my iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, 100,000 downloads of the iPhone SDK in the first 4 days + 70% mobile web browsing market share = a HUGE market lead for Apple. It will be interesting to see what the other manufactures can/will do to try to catch up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lou&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jobsearchdigest.com/pesd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Private Equity Jobs&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, 100,000 downloads of the iPhone SDK in the first 4 days + 70% mobile web browsing market share = a HUGE market lead for Apple. It will be interesting to see what the other manufactures can/will do to try to catch up.</p>
<p>Lou<br /><a href="http://www.jobsearchdigest.com/pesd" rel="nofollow">Private Equity Jobs</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Stanza&#8217; a threat for Amazon&#8217;s &#8216;Kindle&#8217;?? &#124; Startup Meme</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Stanza&#8217; a threat for Amazon&#8217;s &#8216;Kindle&#8217;?? &#124; Startup Meme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a Portland, Oregon based startup called Lexcycle. It is actually an e-book reader. It is currently the best iPhone application in the category of e-books. This might be alarming for Amazon’s Kindle which is also an e-book reader. The thing which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a Portland, Oregon based startup called Lexcycle. It is actually an e-book reader. It is currently the best iPhone application in the category of e-books. This might be alarming for Amazon’s Kindle which is also an e-book reader. The thing which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying you pay full price for a book twice? For the electronic and hardbound copies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying you pay full price for a book twice? For the electronic and hardbound copies?</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have similar, if less well-thought-out-and-articulated, thoughts on DRM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have similar, if less well-thought-out-and-articulated, thoughts on DRM.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, as I note at the beginning of the post, books are the one medium where I&#039;m not sure digital distribution will ever become dominant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, as I note at the beginning of the post, books are the one medium where I&#39;m not sure digital distribution will ever become dominant.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph A. di Paolantonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph A. di Paolantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you newcomer you  :-)  I&#039;ve been reading ebooks using Fictionwise (once Palm Digital Media then Motricity) eReader software on the PalmOS, and yes, now on the iPhone for years.  It is DRM&#039;d but it is also recent.  The price is about the same as the hardbound when it first comes out, and then drops over time to paperback levels.  I do still buy the hardbound copies as well - as my latest bookshelving home improvement project attests.  Mostly the hardbound books are for the collection.  I truly enjoy reading the ebook more: convenience, comfort, dogearing, notes &amp; markup without damaging the original, and sharing (with someone you trust with your credit card passcode).  [NB: the iPhone version doesn&#039;t yet have the dogearing, notes &amp; markup features as yet]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, you newcomer you  <img src='http://venturebeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#39;ve been reading ebooks using Fictionwise (once Palm Digital Media then Motricity) eReader software on the PalmOS, and yes, now on the iPhone for years.  It is DRM&#39;d but it is also recent.  The price is about the same as the hardbound when it first comes out, and then drops over time to paperback levels.  I do still buy the hardbound copies as well &#8211; as my latest bookshelving home improvement project attests.  Mostly the hardbound books are for the collection.  I truly enjoy reading the ebook more: convenience, comfort, dogearing, notes &#038; markup without damaging the original, and sharing (with someone you trust with your credit card passcode).  [NB: the iPhone version doesn&#39;t yet have the dogearing, notes &#038; markup features as yet]</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a solution without a problem, AJ, because almost none of the e-book publishers actually seem to, you know, want to sell e-books.   It&#039;s &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; common for an e-book that&#039;s DRM&#039;d to hades to sell for $4-5 more than the hardback does on amazon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;e-book vendors need to understand that by taking something away from me (the ability to loan the book to a friend, the ability to sell the book used, likely the ability to reread it 10 years from now) they&#039;ve taken away probably half of the value of the book, so the price needs to be half.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only publisher that actually seems to want to sell me e-books is Baen.   As a result, they&#039;ve gotten several hundred dollars of my money over the last few years.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;E-books can succeed, I think, under two models.   One is  &#039;stop assuming that your customers are thieving scoundrels, because if they are, you can&#039;t win&#039;.   The other is to stop trying to weasel around the fact that any DRM-encumbered work that I &quot;purchase&quot; is really a rental, because there&#039;s no guarantee I can access it in the future.   Instead, embrace this fact, and move entirely to the subscription model.   Amazon claims that they have 170k works now available.   Would I pay, say, $20 a month for access to whatever percentage of those are more than a year old?   Given my current purchasing habits, you bet I would.   And then DRM isn&#039;t a bug, it&#039;s a feature, for both sides of the transaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s a solution without a problem, AJ, because almost none of the e-book publishers actually seem to, you know, want to sell e-books.   It&#39;s <i>very</i> common for an e-book that&#39;s DRM&#39;d to hades to sell for $4-5 more than the hardback does on amazon.</p>
<p>e-book vendors need to understand that by taking something away from me (the ability to loan the book to a friend, the ability to sell the book used, likely the ability to reread it 10 years from now) they&#39;ve taken away probably half of the value of the book, so the price needs to be half.</p>
<p>The only publisher that actually seems to want to sell me e-books is Baen.   As a result, they&#39;ve gotten several hundred dollars of my money over the last few years.  </p>
<p>E-books can succeed, I think, under two models.   One is  &#39;stop assuming that your customers are thieving scoundrels, because if they are, you can&#39;t win&#39;.   The other is to stop trying to weasel around the fact that any DRM-encumbered work that I &#8220;purchase&#8221; is really a rental, because there&#39;s no guarantee I can access it in the future.   Instead, embrace this fact, and move entirely to the subscription model.   Amazon claims that they have 170k works now available.   Would I pay, say, $20 a month for access to whatever percentage of those are more than a year old?   Given my current purchasing habits, you bet I would.   And then DRM isn&#39;t a bug, it&#39;s a feature, for both sides of the transaction.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon should absolutely be worried about Stanza, but I&#039;m still not sure there&#039;s a large enough market here to truly support a business. I think this is a solution without a problem. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Books are, by in large, already portable. They are essentially a &#039;long format&#039; and single-threaded medium. You&#039;re not going to read 15 chapters from 15 different books during your commute as you might with music. In addition, you&#039;re unlikely to read the same book over and over and over. They&#039;re also active in nature versus passive. My full argument is on my blog:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/amazon-kindle-sales-we-didnt-start-the-fire/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/amazon-kindle-sal...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not saying eBooks don&#039;t have a place in the market, but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s large and I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon should absolutely be worried about Stanza, but I&#39;m still not sure there&#39;s a large enough market here to truly support a business. I think this is a solution without a problem. </p>
<p>Books are, by in large, already portable. They are essentially a &#39;long format&#39; and single-threaded medium. You&#39;re not going to read 15 chapters from 15 different books during your commute as you might with music. In addition, you&#39;re unlikely to read the same book over and over and over. They&#39;re also active in nature versus passive. My full argument is on my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/amazon-kindle-sales-we-didnt-start-the-fire/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/amazon-kindle-sal.." rel="nofollow">http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/amazon-kindle-sal..</a>.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not saying eBooks don&#39;t have a place in the market, but I&#39;m not sure it&#39;s large and I&#39;m not sure it&#39;s now.</p>
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