Comments on: Flash and AIR: Record downloads, winning platform race http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:50:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: xxooxx http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-903291 xxooxx Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:48:10 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-903291 <a title="battery help" href="http://www.batteryhelp.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>battery help</strong></a><br><a title="battery help" href="http://www.batteryhelp.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>battery help</strong></a><br><a title="battery help" href="http://www.batteryhelp.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>battery help</strong></a><br><a title="battery help" href="http://www.batteryhelp.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>battery help</strong></a> battery help
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]]> By: John Dowdell http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863188 John Dowdell Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:22:34 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863188 <em>"Do Mozilla, Myspace or Facebook or similar independent organizations have any numbers that would give credibility to Dowdell's claims?"</em><br><br>huh? me? wha'd I say...? ;-)<br><br>jd/adobe “Do Mozilla, Myspace or Facebook or similar independent organizations have any numbers that would give credibility to Dowdell's claims?”

huh? me? wha'd I say…? ;-)

jd/adobe

]]> By: Anthony Ha http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863191 Anthony Ha Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:33:25 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863191 Yes, all good points, I suspect there will become increasingly common to have install both Silverlight and Flash, Yes, all good points, I suspect there will become increasingly common to have install both Silverlight and Flash,

]]> By: kaiyzen http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863190 kaiyzen Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:16:00 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863190 Microsoft still has a ways to go to catch up to flash but remember that its only been out for a bit over two years now and 1.0 was basically a psuedo beta.<br><br>Flash is great, AIR is pretty nice as well but Silverlight has a couple advantages that will really be noticed once it reaches critical mass.<br><br>1) Developing is more developer friendly b/c it supports javascript, C#, and Iron Python for writing apps in it<br><br>2) Built in video serving capabilities are superior with automaticly handly the video feed in comparison to the bandwidth the user is experiencing.<br><br>3) Deep Zoom is pretty damm cool and you will start to see some nice uses of it as more people develop on it Microsoft still has a ways to go to catch up to flash but remember that its only been out for a bit over two years now and 1.0 was basically a psuedo beta.

Flash is great, AIR is pretty nice as well but Silverlight has a couple advantages that will really be noticed once it reaches critical mass.

1) Developing is more developer friendly b/c it supports javascript, C#, and Iron Python for writing apps in it

2) Built in video serving capabilities are superior with automaticly handly the video feed in comparison to the bandwidth the user is experiencing.

3) Deep Zoom is pretty damm cool and you will start to see some nice uses of it as more people develop on it

]]> By: Anthony Ha http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863185 Anthony Ha Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:38:18 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863185 Thanks, John, I updated with your links and some of the other stuff Adobe just sent me. Thanks, John, I updated with your links and some of the other stuff Adobe just sent me.

]]> By: Anthony Ha http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863187 Anthony Ha Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:33:55 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863187 OK, I admit that "winning the platform race" is probably a bit hyperbolic, since I don't have up-to-date numbers from Microsoft. But I think that's reasonably clear in the post itself. Also, I think I was clear that I find the numbers interesting, insomuch as they reinforce existing trends, but not that revelatory or useful since due to the absence of comparison points. OK, I admit that “winning the platform race” is probably a bit hyperbolic, since I don't have up-to-date numbers from Microsoft. But I think that's reasonably clear in the post itself. Also, I think I was clear that I find the numbers interesting, insomuch as they reinforce existing trends, but not that revelatory or useful since due to the absence of comparison points.

]]> By: Robert McLaws http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863189 Robert McLaws Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:33:06 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863189 I'm with Marten. Did you guys even check with Microsoft before posting that Adobe won? I'm pretty sure a buttload of people watched the inauguration... I'm with Marten. Did you guys even check with Microsoft before posting that Adobe won? I'm pretty sure a buttload of people watched the inauguration…

]]> By: Marten http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863186 Marten Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:22:40 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863186 What a great infomercial.<br><br>Any independent way to check these claims? <br>Do Mozilla, Myspace or Facebook or similar independent organizations have any numbers that would give credibility to Dowdell's claims? <br><br>And what does it mean that a new version is downloaded faster? Was it because of better tools for updating (e.g. PSI Secunia) or the recent publicity around the Flash click hijacking or the bundling with Adobe Reader? What a great infomercial.

Any independent way to check these claims?
Do Mozilla, Myspace or Facebook or similar independent organizations have any numbers that would give credibility to Dowdell's claims?

And what does it mean that a new version is downloaded faster? Was it because of better tools for updating (e.g. PSI Secunia) or the recent publicity around the Flash click hijacking or the bundling with Adobe Reader?

]]> By: John Dowdell http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/29/flash-and-air-record-downloads-winning-platform-race/comment-page-1/#comment-863184 John Dowdell Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:35:26 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=103292#comment-863184 <em>"Adobe didn’t include any past adoption numbers for an apples-to-apples comparison"</em><br><br>Hi Anthony, there's some at the census link, and more at the Internet Archive:<br><a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/fla...</a><br><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.macrome...</a><br><br>Ted Patrick is in Japan, and has a photo of a slide with relative adoption rates:<br><a href="http://onflash.org/ted/2009/01/flash-player-10-at-55-in-2-months-and.php" rel="nofollow">http://onflash.org/ted/2009/01/flash-player-10-...</a><br><br>tx, jd/adobe “Adobe didn’t include any past adoption numbers for an apples-to-apples comparison”

Hi Anthony, there's some at the census link, and more at the Internet Archive:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/fla...
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.macrome…

Ted Patrick is in Japan, and has a photo of a slide with relative adoption rates:
http://onflash.org/ted/2009/01/flash-player-10-...

tx, jd/adobe

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