Comments on: Hulu encrypts its HTML to fend off Boxee . . . again http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:07:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: xxooxx http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-902899 xxooxx Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:14:54 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-902899 ed hardy <a title="ed hardy" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy</strong></a> <br>ed hardy clothing <a title="ed hardy clothing" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy clothing</strong></a> <br>ed hardy shop <a title="ed hardy shop" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy shop</strong></a> <br>christian audigier <a title="christian audigier" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>christian audigier</strong></a> <br>ed hardy cheap <a title="ed hardy cheap" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy cheap</strong></a> <br>ed hardy outlet <a title="ed hardy outlet" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy outlet</strong></a> <br>ed hardy sale <a title="ed hardy clothes" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy sale</strong></a> <br>ed hardy store <a title="ed hardy store" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy store</strong></a> <br>man ed hardy <a title="man ed hardy" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk/mens.html" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>man ed hardy</strong></a> <br>woman ed hardy <a title="woman ed hardy" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk/womens.html" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>woman ed hardy</strong></a> <br>kid ed hardy <a title="kid ed hardy" href="http://www.edhardyworld.co.uk/kids.html" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>kid ed hardy</strong></a> ed hardy ed hardy
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]]> By: Byron http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-892589 Byron Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:58:08 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-892589 Thanks for the feedback! I'll update the post to correct the spelling foibles. But, the core of the story is technically correct. Though Boxee made XUL changes ahead of Hulu, it only did that for *Mac* users. Granted, that's the majority of Boxee's users base, but not all of it (I'm a PC/Linux user). Thanks for the feedback! I'll update the post to correct the spelling foibles. But, the core of the story is technically correct. Though Boxee made XUL changes ahead of Hulu, it only did that for *Mac* users. Granted, that's the majority of Boxee's users base, but not all of it (I'm a PC/Linux user).

]]> By: Opina http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-891703 Opina Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:50:08 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-891703 Because nobody would watch it if there were as many commercials as on regular TV? (I personally have used Tivos & VCRs for decades to avoid regular commercials.) I wouldn't download anything via BT, but would possibly watch the minimal ads that people say show up on Hulu for rare things that I miss that won't show up on DVD. Because nobody would watch it if there were as many commercials as on regular TV? (I personally have used Tivos & VCRs for decades to avoid regular commercials.) I wouldn't download anything via BT, but would possibly watch the minimal ads that people say show up on Hulu for rare things that I miss that won't show up on DVD.

]]> By: ajax http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-879078 ajax Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:10:08 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-879078 I don't know but for sure Boxee is 90 % of Zink I think! I don't know but for sure Boxee is 90 % of Zink I think!

]]> By: Justin Mayer http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875554 Justin Mayer Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:33:44 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875554 I've read that link already, and it seems pretty clear to me that Boxee decided to change their browser engine primarily to do exactly that: prevent content sources (be they Hulu or anybody else) from discriminating against Boxee users. In a separate paragraph, a new API is described that allows developers to write apps using XML and Python. From the post you linked to, it's not at all clear that those two things are tied together. I've read that link already, and it seems pretty clear to me that Boxee decided to change their browser engine primarily to do exactly that: prevent content sources (be they Hulu or anybody else) from discriminating against Boxee users. In a separate paragraph, a new API is described that allows developers to write apps using XML and Python. From the post you linked to, it's not at all clear that those two things are tied together.

]]> By: Brian http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875544 Brian Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:50:21 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875544 I think you are extrapolating your early adopter-ness on to people who haven't even heard of boxee. I'm trying to find a solution for content owners and boxee users. Is it ideal? Prob not, but it depends whose ideal you're looking to solve for. I think you are extrapolating your early adopter-ness on to people who haven't even heard of boxee. I'm trying to find a solution for content owners and boxee users. Is it ideal? Prob not, but it depends whose ideal you're looking to solve for.

]]> By: connect pc to tv http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875555 connect pc to tv Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:26:39 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875555 I also prefer Zinc to Boxee. Looks great on my HDTV.<br><br><a href="http://PCTVCables.com" rel="nofollow">PCTVCables.com</a> I also prefer Zinc to Boxee. Looks great on my HDTV.

PCTVCables.com

]]> By: nocommercials http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875543 nocommercials Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:21:00 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875543 Because nobody would watch it if there were as many commercials as on regular TV? (I personally have used Tivos & VCRs for decades to avoid regular commercials.) I wouldn't download anything via BT, but would possibly watch the minimal ads that people say show up on Hulu for rare things that I miss that won't show up on DVD. Because nobody would watch it if there were as many commercials as on regular TV? (I personally have used Tivos & VCRs for decades to avoid regular commercials.) I wouldn't download anything via BT, but would possibly watch the minimal ads that people say show up on Hulu for rare things that I miss that won't show up on DVD.

]]> By: Andy http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875553 Andy Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:06:23 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875553 Umm, I don't think Boxee started using XULRunner (Mozilla/Firefox/...) to get around Hulu blocking them. For awhile now, they have been working on a new API to allow content providers more freedom in presenting their content. This new API uses XULRunner to accomplish this (<a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/03/24/rocking-with-pandora-at-webster-hall/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/03/24/rocking-with-pa...</a>). Being able to easily access Hulu is a side effect of this. Umm, I don't think Boxee started using XULRunner (Mozilla/Firefox/…) to get around Hulu blocking them. For awhile now, they have been working on a new API to allow content providers more freedom in presenting their content. This new API uses XULRunner to accomplish this (http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/03/24/rocking-with-pa...). Being able to easily access Hulu is a side effect of this.

]]> By: Justin Mayer http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875551 Justin Mayer Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:23:15 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875551 I'm not sure I agree with the "technically correct" part: the workaround was already present and demonstrated -- it's just a matter of making those same changes in the Linux/PC versions. That said, the corrections are most welcome.<br><br>It's amazing how short-sighted the content industry can be. It's as if they don't realize that they are competing with their own same exact content that is freely available from other sources. The key to their survival is making it so easy to get it straight from them (e.g., Hulu, etc.) that it's not worth getting it from other sources. I'm not sure I agree with the “technically correct” part: the workaround was already present and demonstrated — it's just a matter of making those same changes in the Linux/PC versions. That said, the corrections are most welcome.

It's amazing how short-sighted the content industry can be. It's as if they don't realize that they are competing with their own same exact content that is freely available from other sources. The key to their survival is making it so easy to get it straight from them (e.g., Hulu, etc.) that it's not worth getting it from other sources.

]]> By: Brandon http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875552 Brandon Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:17:10 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875552 Why don't they get that they are helping reduce dependence on BitTorrent.<br><br>I don't have cable and downloaded everything commercial free. Ever since hulu came out I haven't downloaded anything that's availible on hulu - LITERALLY! I wish they had more HD... It's only a few Discovery Channel programs I get with BT. Other sites that do offer some programs have poor quality - and I'd download those too.<br><br>Get the message! Choose no money via BT or make us happy to watch some short commercials! One more thing, I still watch on my HD TV. My computer is hooked up to it and it looks great on that desktop in fullscreen. I can't even tell it's not cable! Why don't they get that they are helping reduce dependence on BitTorrent.

I don't have cable and downloaded everything commercial free. Ever since hulu came out I haven't downloaded anything that's availible on hulu – LITERALLY! I wish they had more HD… It's only a few Discovery Channel programs I get with BT. Other sites that do offer some programs have poor quality – and I'd download those too.

Get the message! Choose no money via BT or make us happy to watch some short commercials! One more thing, I still watch on my HD TV. My computer is hooked up to it and it looks great on that desktop in fullscreen. I can't even tell it's not cable!

]]> By: TerrenceRussell http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875550 TerrenceRussell Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:54:17 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875550 Hey Justin,<br><br>Thanks for the feedback! I'll update the post to correct the spelling foibles. But, the core of the story is technically correct. Though Boxee made XUL changes ahead of Hulu, it only did that for *Mac* users. Granted, that's the majority of Boxee's users base, but not all of it (I'm a PC/Linux user). <br><br>I can see how there'd be some confusion though, so I'll update the post to make the distinction clear. Hey Justin,

Thanks for the feedback! I'll update the post to correct the spelling foibles. But, the core of the story is technically correct. Though Boxee made XUL changes ahead of Hulu, it only did that for *Mac* users. Granted, that's the majority of Boxee's users base, but not all of it (I'm a PC/Linux user).

I can see how there'd be some confusion though, so I'll update the post to make the distinction clear.

]]> By: Justin Mayer http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875549 Justin Mayer Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:19:41 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875549 > For the time being, this means that Hulu’s video library — which could previosuly [sic]<br>> be accessed outside of the browser with a Boxee plugin — is now offlimits [sic].<br>> At least, at the time of this posting.<br><br>Not true: Boxee "cooked up" a workaround last week -- even before Hulu started the latest salvo. Boxee's release from last week not only got around Hulu's previous blocking attempt but also this most recent encrypted HTML attempt as well. How? Because Boxee now embeds an actual XUL browser engine inside of its software, effectively rendering Hulu unable to distinguish between someone using Firefox and someone using Boxee on their living room television. The beauty, of course, is that the end-user experience when watching Hulu content via Boxee today isn't markedly different than before Hulu started this whole kerfuffle. In other words, Hulu's attempts to prevent its content from being displayed on Boxee has (so far) been utterly futile.<br><br>In addition to several grammatical/spelling errors, this article misses several critical details. That's unfortunate, because the author otherwise makes a number of accurate insights. > For the time being, this means that Hulu’s video library — which could previosuly [sic]
> be accessed outside of the browser with a Boxee plugin — is now offlimits [sic].
> At least, at the time of this posting.

Not true: Boxee “cooked up” a workaround last week — even before Hulu started the latest salvo. Boxee's release from last week not only got around Hulu's previous blocking attempt but also this most recent encrypted HTML attempt as well. How? Because Boxee now embeds an actual XUL browser engine inside of its software, effectively rendering Hulu unable to distinguish between someone using Firefox and someone using Boxee on their living room television. The beauty, of course, is that the end-user experience when watching Hulu content via Boxee today isn't markedly different than before Hulu started this whole kerfuffle. In other words, Hulu's attempts to prevent its content from being displayed on Boxee has (so far) been utterly futile.

In addition to several grammatical/spelling errors, this article misses several critical details. That's unfortunate, because the author otherwise makes a number of accurate insights.

]]> By: echeola http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875548 echeola Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:19:33 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875548 This is so stupid. Doesn't the business model make more sense if the more people that watch the money they make. <br><br>Maybe they lose money for every viewer so they want to stop people from watching. <br><br>These content guys are going to get dragged kicking and screaming into the future. This is so stupid. Doesn't the business model make more sense if the more people that watch the money they make.

Maybe they lose money for every viewer so they want to stop people from watching.

These content guys are going to get dragged kicking and screaming into the future.

]]> By: AbeFroman http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/02/hulu-encrypts-its-html-to-fend-off-boxeeagain/comment-page-1/#comment-875547 AbeFroman Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:56:26 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=105848#comment-875547 I've never seen such an inept evil plot to take over the world in my life. People want to watch, people try to watch, and the companies providing the content claim to want people to watch...then they change it up so you can't watch their free content in an unapproved manner.<br><br>Maybe it really is an evil plot? I've never seen such an inept evil plot to take over the world in my life. People want to watch, people try to watch, and the companies providing the content claim to want people to watch…then they change it up so you can't watch their free content in an unapproved manner.

Maybe it really is an evil plot?

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