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	<title>Comments on: Cooliris raises $15M for (improved) 3D wall</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....I heard they have money for 1000 days...Did they run out that fast ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.I heard they have money for 1000 days&#8230;Did they run out that fast ?</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857127</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cooliris is cool - but how the hell did they raise 15M for? Do the investors see a potential for a 150M exit here?!? From viewing other people&#039;s images?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cooliris is cool &#8211; but how the hell did they raise 15M for? Do the investors see a potential for a 150M exit here?!? From viewing other people&#39;s images?!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857126</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mozilla Add-Ons page gets about 1M uniques a day.  It is the most important distribution point for most extension developers.  We at MashLogic are trying a different route, but it will be hard to ignore the contextual audience the addons website can provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mozilla Add-Ons page gets about 1M uniques a day.  It is the most important distribution point for most extension developers.  We at MashLogic are trying a different route, but it will be hard to ignore the contextual audience the addons website can provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ha</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857124</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi AJ, here&#039;s what someone from Cooliris&#039; user growth team had to say:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Not all of our downloads come from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cooliris.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.cooliris.com&lt;/a&gt; page. In addition to &lt;a href=&quot;http://cooliris.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cooliris.com&lt;/a&gt; and our product page, we get downloads from several distribution channels. One example is our Mozilla Add-ons page (&lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5579&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/...&lt;/a&gt;), which shows over 24K downloads per day. Again, this is only one of many places where users can download the product.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Also just as an FYI, the spikes are most likely attributed to when we auto-update our user base to a new release, as every user that auto-updates gets an upgrade page. We do not pay for traffic.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, there&#039;s no way for me to verify this, but the 24K/day from Mozilla certainly makes Cooliris&#039; numbers sound more plausible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi AJ, here&#39;s what someone from Cooliris&#39; user growth team had to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not all of our downloads come from the <a href="http://www.cooliris.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cooliris.com</a> page. In addition to <a href="http://cooliris.com" rel="nofollow">cooliris.com</a> and our product page, we get downloads from several distribution channels. One example is our Mozilla Add-ons page (<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5579" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/.." rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/..</a>.), which shows over 24K downloads per day. Again, this is only one of many places where users can download the product.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also just as an FYI, the spikes are most likely attributed to when we auto-update our user base to a new release, as every user that auto-updates gets an upgrade page. We do not pay for traffic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, there&#39;s no way for me to verify this, but the 24K/day from Mozilla certainly makes Cooliris&#39; numbers sound more plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857123</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Anthony. The link SK provided below seems to indicate they are getting about 24,000 downloads a day. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s quite possible that most of the downloads are coming internationally(which would explain the compete discrepancy). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even so, the numbers appear a bit fishy so it would be worth a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anthony. The link SK provided below seems to indicate they are getting about 24,000 downloads a day. </p>
<p>It&#39;s quite possible that most of the downloads are coming internationally(which would explain the compete discrepancy). </p>
<p>Even so, the numbers appear a bit fishy so it would be worth a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ha</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857122</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ, agreed that 50K seems pretty high -- Compete certainly isn&#039;t 100% reliable, but that&#039;s a huge discrepancy. I&#039;ve asked Cooliris to explain the difference between Compete&#039;s visitor numbers and their download numbers, and I&#039;ll update if I hear back. Since they&#039;re a private company, not sure there&#039;s any &quot;due diligence&quot; VentureBeat can do to verify downloads, though if there&#039;s something I&#039;m not thinking of, please let me know. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, yeah, what SK said below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, agreed that 50K seems pretty high &#8212; Compete certainly isn&#39;t 100% reliable, but that&#39;s a huge discrepancy. I&#39;ve asked Cooliris to explain the difference between Compete&#39;s visitor numbers and their download numbers, and I&#39;ll update if I hear back. Since they&#39;re a private company, not sure there&#39;s any &#8220;due diligence&#8221; VentureBeat can do to verify downloads, though if there&#39;s something I&#39;m not thinking of, please let me know. </p>
<p>Also, yeah, what SK said below.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Cooliris runs video ads, though they&#039;re usually clearly marked. There were also a number of sites that posted the ad, so Cooliris pulled it from there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Cooliris runs video ads, though they&#39;re usually clearly marked. There were also a number of sites that posted the ad, so Cooliris pulled it from there?</p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857125</link>
		<dc:creator>SK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well they probably get more downloads from other sources such as:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5579&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They seem to get ~25 K downloads everyday from mozilla alone. I can imagine the total being much higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they probably get more downloads from other sources such as:</p>
<p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5579" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/.." rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/..</a>.</p>
<p>They seem to get ~25 K downloads everyday from mozilla alone. I can imagine the total being much higher.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857121</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These numbers are complete BS.  Take a look at traffic to their destination site:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://siteanalytics.compete.com/cooliris.com/?metric=uv&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://siteanalytics.compete.com/cooliris.com/?...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Compete reports under 300k uniques/month, and even if EVERY single unique to their site downloaded their software, they would get only 10,000 downloads a day. Of course, the conversion is probably closer to 1 - 5%, meaning that they&#039;re getting 100-500 downloads/day. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, see that HUGE cliff in traffic? That means they paid heavily for traffic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s extremely irritating to see Cooliris constantly lie about their numbers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Matt, can you do some due diligence on these guys to find out what&#039;s really going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These numbers are complete BS.  Take a look at traffic to their destination site:</p>
<p><a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/cooliris.com/?metric=uv" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/cooliris.com/?.." rel="nofollow">http://siteanalytics.compete.com/cooliris.com/?..</a>.</p>
<p>Compete reports under 300k uniques/month, and even if EVERY single unique to their site downloaded their software, they would get only 10,000 downloads a day. Of course, the conversion is probably closer to 1 &#8211; 5%, meaning that they&#39;re getting 100-500 downloads/day. </p>
<p>Also, see that HUGE cliff in traffic? That means they paid heavily for traffic.</p>
<p>It&#39;s extremely irritating to see Cooliris constantly lie about their numbers. </p>
<p>Matt, can you do some due diligence on these guys to find out what&#39;s really going on?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashutosh Garg</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashutosh Garg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome product. It has changed the way I search for images. Now with additional meta data it is just so useful. I have been using it more and more often now - almost once a day if not more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome product. It has changed the way I search for images. Now with additional meta data it is just so useful. I have been using it more and more often now &#8211; almost once a day if not more.</p>
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		<title>By: cabbo</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857118</link>
		<dc:creator>cabbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Satyajit Sahu&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I beleive that is aprt of their revenue model (inserting ads into the video stream/wall)  dynamically depending on content.  I saw their demonstration at the OMMA Hollywood conference last month and it seemed that was the case (ad insertion) when they were demonstrating the product.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve had the product on my browser for a while, and it is a great user experience but I look forward how they integrate it into a more central part of the browsing/online experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Satyajit Sahu</p>
<p>I beleive that is aprt of their revenue model (inserting ads into the video stream/wall)  dynamically depending on content.  I saw their demonstration at the OMMA Hollywood conference last month and it seemed that was the case (ad insertion) when they were demonstrating the product.  </p>
<p>I&#39;ve had the product on my browser for a while, and it is a great user experience but I look forward how they integrate it into a more central part of the browsing/online experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Marshall</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857115</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, that&#039;s a hella downloads. Would be great to know a little more about how many stay active. I&#039;m just haven&#039;t talked with anyone who uses it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, that&#39;s a hella downloads. Would be great to know a little more about how many stay active. I&#39;m just haven&#39;t talked with anyone who uses it.</p>
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		<title>By: Satyajit Sahu</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857117</link>
		<dc:creator>Satyajit Sahu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How cooliris gathers media from the web I am not sure, today I noticed Microsoft&#039;s anti-apple ad posted several times on several channel (including comedy where it fits) - so is MS spamming cooliris or are they paying them $$?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cooliris gathers media from the web I am not sure, today I noticed Microsoft&#39;s anti-apple ad posted several times on several channel (including comedy where it fits) &#8211; so is MS spamming cooliris or are they paying them $$?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/cooliris-raises-15m-for-improved-3d-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-857116</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So can I fave flickr photos from within cooliris yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So can I fave flickr photos from within cooliris yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool technology. Extend it further to the desktop and I might jump on board.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to say wow, those are huge numbers. 50,000 downloads of the Cooliris client every day?? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seriously, we see all sorts of numbers floating around about Web and software companies, but having been on the inside, I know they&#039;re often inflated. For example, are they counting the number of times their download server is pinged, or the full client successfully downloaded? Are they counting existing clients updating, or only new downloads? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since the point of the stats is to show new user acquisition, I&#039;d love some clarification of how they are tallying those numbers. If &quot;tens of millions&quot; of downloads and 50,000 new downloads are accurate, then this company has truly hit their hockeystick moment. I know of some very popular and well-known free programs that have been around 5-7 years that have NEVER had those kinds of numbers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope the numbers are accurate (if so, then CONGRATS), but to be honest I follow new Web companies fairly closely and I&#039;ve barely heard of these guys. Maybe I&#039;m not their target demographic, but the lack of overall publicity/brand awareness makes me a little skeptical.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If they are true, then I&#039;d like to ask the Cooliris folks for a few tips on acquisition paths!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool technology. Extend it further to the desktop and I might jump on board.</p>
<p>I have to say wow, those are huge numbers. 50,000 downloads of the Cooliris client every day?? </p>
<p>Seriously, we see all sorts of numbers floating around about Web and software companies, but having been on the inside, I know they&#39;re often inflated. For example, are they counting the number of times their download server is pinged, or the full client successfully downloaded? Are they counting existing clients updating, or only new downloads? </p>
<p>Since the point of the stats is to show new user acquisition, I&#39;d love some clarification of how they are tallying those numbers. If &#8220;tens of millions&#8221; of downloads and 50,000 new downloads are accurate, then this company has truly hit their hockeystick moment. I know of some very popular and well-known free programs that have been around 5-7 years that have NEVER had those kinds of numbers. </p>
<p>I hope the numbers are accurate (if so, then CONGRATS), but to be honest I follow new Web companies fairly closely and I&#39;ve barely heard of these guys. Maybe I&#39;m not their target demographic, but the lack of overall publicity/brand awareness makes me a little skeptical.</p>
<p>If they are true, then I&#39;d like to ask the Cooliris folks for a few tips on acquisition paths!!</p>
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