Comments on: Mobile app developers fire back: Nokia sucks! http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:54:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: xxooxx http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-903218 xxooxx Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:15:04 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-903218 Laptop Battery <a title="Laptop Battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>Laptop Battery</strong></a> Laptop Batteries<br><a title="Laptop Batteries" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>Laptop Batteries</strong></a> discount laptop battery<br><a title="discount laptop battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>discount laptop battery</strong></a> <br><a title="notebook battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>notebook battery</strong></a> notebook battery<br><a title="computer battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>computer battery</strong></a> computer battery<br><a title="replacement laptop battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>replacement laptop battery</strong></a> replacement laptop battery<br><a title="notebook batteries" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>notebook batteries</strong></a> notebook batteries Laptop Battery Laptop Battery Laptop Batteries
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]]> By: edsion007 http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-895130 edsion007 Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:11:46 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-895130 Hmmm.<a href="http://www.creayuggs.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">.</a><a href="http://www.uggs365.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">.</a> why it has to do with twitter so much? Hmmm... why it has to do with twitter so much?

]]> By: orion http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858671 orion Tue, 26 May 2009 12:51:25 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858671 tryrleool, 12 years old boy has few apps on the app store!<br>If you consider yourself programmer and have problems learning Objective C, that you should rethink whether you should consider coding or just do graphic design. tryrleool, 12 years old boy has few apps on the app store!
If you consider yourself programmer and have problems learning Objective C, that you should rethink whether you should consider coding or just do graphic design.

]]> By: tryrleool http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858670 tryrleool Tue, 12 May 2009 01:51:01 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858670 One thing that the iPhone is missing is "easy" programing like android has. I'm web programmer, so I know Flash, Java, some Python, ect, ect. The fact that in order to make a app that has about the complexity of most web apps requires the knowlage of a "hardcore" and archaic langauge Objective C is a little disheartening. <br><br>I'm sure the entire "programming" community will flame me for this, and I totally understand. But when i see a iPhone app that i could build in Flash AS 3.0 or Java with half as much code, I'm stuck watching (for now) because i don't have a firm understanding of pointers and header files. You see Japanese cellphones apps that run in flash all the time, and they are functional and look great. Imagine if they finally implement flash app support on the iphone? Then it really will be the only platform programmers will want to go for, and it would have a huge profit margin for apple (i surely would be ready to pay the 99). The only problem you run into at this point is of course over saturation. One thing that the iPhone is missing is “easy” programing like android has. I'm web programmer, so I know Flash, Java, some Python, ect, ect. The fact that in order to make a app that has about the complexity of most web apps requires the knowlage of a “hardcore” and archaic langauge Objective C is a little disheartening.

I'm sure the entire “programming” community will flame me for this, and I totally understand. But when i see a iPhone app that i could build in Flash AS 3.0 or Java with half as much code, I'm stuck watching (for now) because i don't have a firm understanding of pointers and header files. You see Japanese cellphones apps that run in flash all the time, and they are functional and look great. Imagine if they finally implement flash app support on the iphone? Then it really will be the only platform programmers will want to go for, and it would have a huge profit margin for apple (i surely would be ready to pay the 99). The only problem you run into at this point is of course over saturation.

]]> By: Zsolt Váradi http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858669 Zsolt Váradi Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:35:03 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858669 Agreed. But hey, there are already rumors in and out of Nokia (eg.: <a href="http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/04/09/nokia-mid-and-nautilus-new-linux-based-mobile-computers-from-nokia/" rel="nofollow">http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/04/09/nokia-mid...</a> ) about using Maemo on phones. It's like an execution warrant on Symbian. Agreed. But hey, there are already rumors in and out of Nokia (eg.: http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/04/09/nokia-mid... ) about using Maemo on phones. It's like an execution warrant on Symbian.

]]> By: Zsolt Váradi http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858665 Zsolt Váradi Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:22:45 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858665 Right. And modern operating systems are just dinosaurs from the '60s to cover until the cloud takes over. What are you smoking? Right. And modern operating systems are just dinosaurs from the '60s to cover until the cloud takes over. What are you smoking?

]]> By: Varley http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858667 Varley Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:34:50 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858667 Saying apps should be developed for platforms rather than devices shows a complete lack of understanding of the basic realities of mobile software development. Even J2ME apps, the poster boy for portability, have to be tested and modified for every device you want to run them on. Saying apps should be developed for platforms rather than devices shows a complete lack of understanding of the basic realities of mobile software development. Even J2ME apps, the poster boy for portability, have to be tested and modified for every device you want to run them on.

]]> By: Varley http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858668 Varley Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:29:56 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858668 Lee M. Williams' comments are exactly the kind of vacuous BS that alienates developers. Symbian is a platform with broken frameworks, broken development tools, and a myriad of broken devices to run on. No sane developer will write code for Symbian unless they're paid significantly more than writing for another platform. It's is a dead platform. If I were a betting man I'd wage on Nokia making a move to push Maemo based platform into their smart phones in the next few years. Lee M. Williams' comments are exactly the kind of vacuous BS that alienates developers. Symbian is a platform with broken frameworks, broken development tools, and a myriad of broken devices to run on. No sane developer will write code for Symbian unless they're paid significantly more than writing for another platform. It's is a dead platform. If I were a betting man I'd wage on Nokia making a move to push Maemo based platform into their smart phones in the next few years.

]]> By: Michael http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858666 Michael Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:11:38 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858666 Wow,<br><br>firstly apps should not be developped for devices but for platforms, saying Nokia or Ovi sucks, show a lack of understanding of the mobile value chain.<br><br>Premium SMS (ups lost all the Americans there) showed the way.... That was 1999....<br> that the Yanks cant work it out, and belive that the rest of the world works like the US should be a big wakeup call. Wow,

firstly apps should not be developped for devices but for platforms, saying Nokia or Ovi sucks, show a lack of understanding of the mobile value chain.

Premium SMS (ups lost all the Americans there) showed the way…. That was 1999….
that the Yanks cant work it out, and belive that the rest of the world works like the US should be a big wakeup call.

]]> By: swag http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858664 swag Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:37:49 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858664 Phone apps are dinosaurs from the 1990s -- a momentary patch to cover for abysmal Web support by today's phones. Phone apps are dinosaurs from the 1990s — a momentary patch to cover for abysmal Web support by today's phones.

]]> By: Ryan http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858663 Ryan Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:45:52 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858663 And thank god for that! And thank god for that!

]]> By: Peter Antypas http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858662 Peter Antypas Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:20:48 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858662 Sorry to spoil it for you but the M.O. of the app business is "bottom-up", not "top-down". Screw the "big players". They're becoming dinosaurs. Sorry to spoil it for you but the M.O. of the app business is “bottom-up”, not “top-down”. Screw the “big players”. They're becoming dinosaurs.

]]> By: matthaus http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/12/mobile-app-developers-fire-back-nokia-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-858661 matthaus Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:30:20 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106150#comment-858661 You probably neither attended GamesBeat nor did you follow our coverage. The gaming industry disagrees with you. You probably neither attended GamesBeat nor did you follow our coverage. The gaming industry disagrees with you.

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