Comments on: Facebook rejects funding at $4 billion valuation, may not raise more http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:25:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: sandiee http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-905977 sandiee Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:57:10 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-905977 seems that if they "net" burn $100MM with top line of $500MM and (average over the year) of 300MM users, then all costs of service, offices, lunches, humans, benefits, servers, bandwidth, hosting, parties, etc. still only amounts to maybe $1.25 <a href="http://www.millybridal.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">wedding dresses</a>per active user per year. 10 cents a month to monetize and cover all operating and SG&A costs per user? seems that if they “net” burn $100MM with top line of $500MM and (average over the year) of 300MM users, then all costs of service, offices, lunches, humans, benefits, servers, bandwidth, hosting, parties, etc. still only amounts to maybe $1.25 wedding dressesper active user per year. 10 cents a month to monetize and cover all operating and SG&A costs per user?

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]]> By: wuwei19871118 http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-897858 wuwei19871118 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:31:39 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-897858 Great article. And Interesting thoughts... and even more interesting math. I dont know much money things cost and how much space pictures take up so I won't try to dispute the math. That said, $200 million is a lot of money, but I can't imagine it would last more than a year or two at most, especially given FB's size and the number of users it has. FB has a very appealing UI and offers features that keep its users coming back, but I am not sure if its revenue model is all that much different from when it first started. No doubt, FB has become a darling in the eyes of those on Sand Hill Road, but I can't bank on a business that has yet to breakeven. Sooner or later people are going to get tired of FB (sorry, it's just how things work. We are a generation of ADHDs) so it needs some other way to monetize its larger user base if it's going to become profitable and stay profitable. Great article. And Interesting thoughts… and even more interesting math. I dont know much money things cost and how much space pictures take up so I won't try to dispute the math. That said, $200 million is a lot of money, but I can't imagine it would last more than a year or two at most, especially given FB's size and the number of users it has. FB has a very appealing UI and offers features that keep its users coming back, but I am not sure if its revenue model is all that much different from when it first started. No doubt, FB has become a darling in the eyes of those on Sand Hill Road, but I can't bank on a business that has yet to breakeven. Sooner or later people are going to get tired of FB (sorry, it's just how things work. We are a generation of ADHDs) so it needs some other way to monetize its larger user base if it's going to become profitable and stay profitable.

]]> By: Aion Kinah http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-894116 Aion Kinah Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:58:19 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-894116 FB has a very appealing UI and offers features that keep its users coming back, but I am not sure if its revenue model is all that much different from when it first started. FB has a very appealing UI and offers features that keep its users coming back, but I am not sure if its revenue model is all that much different from when it first started.

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]]> By: cadi9122 http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-885848 cadi9122 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:15:59 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-885848 I read this too. Good read!!! I read this too. Good read!!!

]]> By: homepage http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-874497 homepage Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:29:23 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-874497 If zuckerberg thinks this company is worth more then $4B he has lost his mind. If zuckerberg thinks this company is worth more then $4B he has lost his mind.

]]> By: Haggie http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-874496 Haggie Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:42:49 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-874496 "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."<br><br>-Shakespeare, Hamlet Act 3, scene 2 “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

-Shakespeare, Hamlet Act 3, scene 2

]]> By: Snoopster http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-874487 Snoopster Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:07:33 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-874487 Tom,<br>Is $100 per TB the cost to own or rent? ~66 million users generating 100 Mb per day - both figures seem high. According to compete FB has ~90 million monthly uniques so your assumptions imply 2/3 of monthly uniques visit daily which seems unlikely. I'm assuming the majority of the traffic bandwidth is due to loading the default profile pictures and incrementally other photo album pictures (I don't have a sense for how much bandwidth is used by games/apps). FB pictures are JPEG and if you save down a few you'll notice most are under 50KB so let's assume 100KB on average to be safe. 100 Mb in daily traffic per user implies each user is looking at 1,000 pictures a day on average - doesn't jibe with personal experience and I am one of the few that use FB nearly daily Tom,
Is $100 per TB the cost to own or rent? ~66 million users generating 100 Mb per day – both figures seem high. According to compete FB has ~90 million monthly uniques so your assumptions imply 2/3 of monthly uniques visit daily which seems unlikely. I'm assuming the majority of the traffic bandwidth is due to loading the default profile pictures and incrementally other photo album pictures (I don't have a sense for how much bandwidth is used by games/apps). FB pictures are JPEG and if you save down a few you'll notice most are under 50KB so let's assume 100KB on average to be safe. 100 Mb in daily traffic per user implies each user is looking at 1,000 pictures a day on average – doesn't jibe with personal experience and I am one of the few that use FB nearly daily

]]> By: Ryan http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-874495 Ryan Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:58:21 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-874495 Sorry to FB, but their story doesn't jive with recent events (CFO ouster). They can wave their arms all they want about not needing cash. Of course, claiming to not need cash is exactly what a company who does need cash at an inflated valuation would say. Sorry to FB, but their story doesn't jive with recent events (CFO ouster). They can wave their arms all they want about not needing cash. Of course, claiming to not need cash is exactly what a company who does need cash at an inflated valuation would say.

]]> By: Jonathan http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-874494 Jonathan Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:42:48 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-874494 Great article. And Interesting thoughts... and even more interesting math. I dont know much money things cost and how much space pictures take up so I won't try to dispute the math. That said, $200 million is a lot of money, but I can't imagine it would last more than a year or two at most, especially given FB's size and the number of users it has. FB has a very appealing UI and offers features that keep its users coming back, but I am not sure if its revenue model is all that much different from when it first started. No doubt, FB has become a darling in the eyes of those on Sand Hill Road, but I can't bank on a business that has yet to breakeven. Sooner or later people are going to get tired of FB (sorry, it's just how things work. We are a generation of ADHDs) so it needs some other way to monetize its larger user base if it's going to become profitable and stay profitable. Great article. And Interesting thoughts… and even more interesting math. I dont know much money things cost and how much space pictures take up so I won't try to dispute the math. That said, $200 million is a lot of money, but I can't imagine it would last more than a year or two at most, especially given FB's size and the number of users it has. FB has a very appealing UI and offers features that keep its users coming back, but I am not sure if its revenue model is all that much different from when it first started. No doubt, FB has become a darling in the eyes of those on Sand Hill Road, but I can't bank on a business that has yet to breakeven. Sooner or later people are going to get tired of FB (sorry, it's just how things work. We are a generation of ADHDs) so it needs some other way to monetize its larger user base if it's going to become profitable and stay profitable.

]]> By: Eric Eldon http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-874493 Eric Eldon Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:12:03 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-874493 I didn't go into that but preferred. I don't think Facebook would be selling common stock to investors. I didn't go into that but preferred. I don't think Facebook would be selling common stock to investors.

]]> By: Larry http://venturebeat.com/2009/04/15/facebook-rejects-funding-at-4-billion-valuation-may-not-raise-more/comment-page-1/#comment-874492 Larry Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:04:38 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=106320#comment-874492 Interesting....Is the $4 BB value based on the preferred or the common? Interesting….Is the $4 BB value based on the preferred or the common?

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