Comments on: Google’s mobile jihad: Support the web, but live with the app http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/ News About Tech, Money and Innovation Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:55:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: xxooxx http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-903072 xxooxx Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:33:05 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-903072 Laptop Battery <a title="Laptop Battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>Laptop Battery</strong></a> Laptop Batteries<br><a title="Laptop Batteries" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>Laptop Batteries</strong></a> discount laptop battery<br><a title="discount laptop battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>discount laptop battery</strong></a> <br><a title="notebook battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>notebook battery</strong></a> notebook battery<br><a title="computer battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>computer battery</strong></a> computer battery<br><a title="replacement laptop battery" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>replacement laptop battery</strong></a> replacement laptop battery<br><a title="notebook batteries" href="http://www.laptopbatteryclub.com" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow"><strong>notebook batteries</strong></a> notebook batteries Laptop Battery Laptop Battery Laptop Batteries
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]]> By: Rutherford http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857559 Rutherford Sun, 31 May 2009 02:28:03 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857559 " Even Google’s HTML5 hasn’t been accepted by most mobile browsers."<br><br>Except it's not Google's. And it has not been 'accepted' by any browser yet - it's still a working draft. <br><br>Mozilla, Microsoft and even Apple itself are contributors so I fail to see how you can line up HTML5-based apps as Google's answer to the AppStore. Android is Google's platform. HTML5 will run on anything, and will soon run on everything.<br><br>If you want to compare HTML5 with anything, it's main competitors are Silverlight, Flash & javaFX. ” Even Google’s HTML5 hasn’t been accepted by most mobile browsers.”

Except it's not Google's. And it has not been 'accepted' by any browser yet – it's still a working draft.

Mozilla, Microsoft and even Apple itself are contributors so I fail to see how you can line up HTML5-based apps as Google's answer to the AppStore. Android is Google's platform. HTML5 will run on anything, and will soon run on everything.

If you want to compare HTML5 with anything, it's main competitors are Silverlight, Flash & javaFX.

]]> By: jonny smith http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857558 jonny smith Wed, 13 May 2009 23:11:49 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857558 you're an absolute retard for using the word Jihad without having any idea what it means. you're an absolute retard for using the word Jihad without having any idea what it means.

]]> By: John Davis http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857557 John Davis Wed, 13 May 2009 16:18:10 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857557 Hey, theres an app for that! LOL<br><br>RT<br><a href="http://www.privacy-resources.us.tc" rel="nofollow">www.privacy-resources.us.tc</a> Hey, theres an app for that! LOL

RT
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]]> By: JT http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857547 JT Wed, 13 May 2009 14:44:33 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857547 Money and time spent on apps actually lock consumer in a platform. This is one of the major reasons Windows users stich with it. Apple is aware of that - I think.<br>iPhone is a great Google phone (google search in safari, youtube, maps...) no reasons why both companies would not coexist. Money and time spent on apps actually lock consumer in a platform. This is one of the major reasons Windows users stich with it. Apple is aware of that – I think.
iPhone is a great Google phone (google search in safari, youtube, maps…) no reasons why both companies would not coexist.

]]> By: Dylan Schiemann http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857556 Dylan Schiemann Wed, 13 May 2009 11:38:29 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857556 I'm surprised that there's no mention of PhoneGap, <a href="http://phonegap.com/" rel="nofollow">http://phonegap.com/</a> , a nice open-source project which makes it extremely easy for web app developers to wrap their web apps inside an installable app for the iPhone, Android, and other platforms. I'm surprised that there's no mention of PhoneGap, http://phonegap.com/ , a nice open-source project which makes it extremely easy for web app developers to wrap their web apps inside an installable app for the iPhone, Android, and other platforms.

]]> By: Matt Marshall http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857555 Matt Marshall Wed, 13 May 2009 10:20:51 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857555 Good points.<br>Still, I'm hearing the Google-Apple relationship has soured. Another thing: Apple let Google become the default search on the iphone. Apple is kind of ticked off, having given Google potentially millions of dollars of search revenue, and thus letting Google reinvest that into Android -- which directly rivals the iPhone. With these guys having the two most innovative smartphones out there, fighting for market share, it's kind of hard to see them as best buds. Good points.
Still, I'm hearing the Google-Apple relationship has soured. Another thing: Apple let Google become the default search on the iphone. Apple is kind of ticked off, having given Google potentially millions of dollars of search revenue, and thus letting Google reinvest that into Android — which directly rivals the iPhone. With these guys having the two most innovative smartphones out there, fighting for market share, it's kind of hard to see them as best buds.

]]> By: Television Spy http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857546 Television Spy Wed, 13 May 2009 09:16:26 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857546 I'm not entirely convinced of that. I'm not entirely convinced of that.

]]> By: Shane http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857554 Shane Wed, 13 May 2009 09:11:43 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857554 iPity reminds me of the "Hello Governor" app from Flatcracker Software<br><a href="http://www.flatcracker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flatcracker.com</a> iPity reminds me of the “Hello Governor” app from Flatcracker Software
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]]> By: matthaus http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857553 matthaus Wed, 13 May 2009 02:53:39 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857553 @kent @justin bailey<br>You both have a point. Both Apple and Google are driving a major technology push in mobile, mostly together. Yet this article is not about what you rightly describe as largely an "imaginary" war between these two. The article is about some implications for other players in the mobile eco system like advertisers and developers who want to advertise for the monetisation of their apps -- where these players need to make costly choices between these two. That's also particularly true for bigger mobile content players like CBS -- they can change their development strategy only once in a while. @kent @justin bailey
You both have a point. Both Apple and Google are driving a major technology push in mobile, mostly together. Yet this article is not about what you rightly describe as largely an “imaginary” war between these two. The article is about some implications for other players in the mobile eco system like advertisers and developers who want to advertise for the monetisation of their apps — where these players need to make costly choices between these two. That's also particularly true for bigger mobile content players like CBS — they can change their development strategy only once in a while.

]]> By: Justin Bailey http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857552 Justin Bailey Wed, 13 May 2009 01:23:46 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857552 And while people speculate about who will win an imaginary war over mobile phone supremacy Google and the Open Handset Alliance faithfully continue to mind their own business and carry out there single mission; build a better mobile phone (<a href="http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/</a>)<br><br>That's really all that it boils down to. A few companies took it upon themselves to grace the world with a ubiquitous *mobile operating system* (not just a single device) to make life easier for hardware developers, software developers, and the people who keep them in business (the customers).<br><br>I, for one, am grateful that a handful of companies were willing to do away with silly games and proprietary formats in order to make life easier for everybody in the long run. Here's to hoping that we see plenty more uses for Android in the near future ^_^ And while people speculate about who will win an imaginary war over mobile phone supremacy Google and the Open Handset Alliance faithfully continue to mind their own business and carry out there single mission; build a better mobile phone (http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/)

That's really all that it boils down to. A few companies took it upon themselves to grace the world with a ubiquitous *mobile operating system* (not just a single device) to make life easier for hardware developers, software developers, and the people who keep them in business (the customers).

I, for one, am grateful that a handful of companies were willing to do away with silly games and proprietary formats in order to make life easier for everybody in the long run. Here's to hoping that we see plenty more uses for Android in the near future ^_^

]]> By: Kent http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857551 Kent Tue, 12 May 2009 23:04:24 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857551 This article misrepresents the nature of Android and the web experience (and that of the iPhone as well). The purpose of Android it to give developers access to the hardware features of the mobile device. Period. It has the same capacities of any desktop OS. Like any personal computing platform, implementation of the web is a piece; but not the point.<br><br>But even within a flawed premise, you miss the implication of Android. It's not Google vs. Apple. Google makes an OS, Apple makes devices. Ultimately the benefit of Google's model is that many different devices ... all trying to compete with the iPhone ... will share it's DNA and application base. Google doesn't need an "iPhone killer" - just a growing stable of solid offerings by a diverse range of handset manufacturers. Apple will always be limited by the number of devices they can sell. This limitation does not apply to Google in the same way.<br><br>The Android drive isn't based on a desire to push web technologies - LiMO, J2Me, WebOS, WinMo, etc. etc. all serve this purpose without the need for Google to take on the overhead. Android is Google's attempt to pull an inverse Microsoft. Microsoft took their dominance of physical hardware space and tried to use it to achieve dominance in web space. Google is trying to use it's domination of web space combined with Android to establish a serious presence in the physical domain. Look at what's happening on netbooks - it's shaking out as a choice between XP and Android. Google is ultimately challenging MS, not Apple. This article misrepresents the nature of Android and the web experience (and that of the iPhone as well). The purpose of Android it to give developers access to the hardware features of the mobile device. Period. It has the same capacities of any desktop OS. Like any personal computing platform, implementation of the web is a piece; but not the point.

But even within a flawed premise, you miss the implication of Android. It's not Google vs. Apple. Google makes an OS, Apple makes devices. Ultimately the benefit of Google's model is that many different devices … all trying to compete with the iPhone … will share it's DNA and application base. Google doesn't need an “iPhone killer” – just a growing stable of solid offerings by a diverse range of handset manufacturers. Apple will always be limited by the number of devices they can sell. This limitation does not apply to Google in the same way.

The Android drive isn't based on a desire to push web technologies – LiMO, J2Me, WebOS, WinMo, etc. etc. all serve this purpose without the need for Google to take on the overhead. Android is Google's attempt to pull an inverse Microsoft. Microsoft took their dominance of physical hardware space and tried to use it to achieve dominance in web space. Google is trying to use it's domination of web space combined with Android to establish a serious presence in the physical domain. Look at what's happening on netbooks – it's shaking out as a choice between XP and Android. Google is ultimately challenging MS, not Apple.

]]> By: Matt Marshall http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857550 Matt Marshall Tue, 12 May 2009 22:44:27 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857550 Good question, Saqeeb. Even the neutrality of this entry is being disputed: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad</a> Good question, Saqeeb. Even the neutrality of this entry is being disputed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

]]> By: Saqeeb http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857549 Saqeeb Tue, 12 May 2009 22:38:43 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857549 what is a jihad? <br><br>can you explain where the term comes from, the history and meaning of the word, and where it is predominantly found? what is a jihad?

can you explain where the term comes from, the history and meaning of the word, and where it is predominantly found?

]]> By: AppCraver http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/12/googles-mobile-jihad-support-the-web-live-with-the-app/comment-page-1/#comment-857548 AppCraver Tue, 12 May 2009 22:34:36 +0000 http://venturebeat.com/?p=107259#comment-857548 Great article! Thanks for the link to our review of iPity, keep up the great work.<br><br>-AppCraver Great article! Thanks for the link to our review of iPity, keep up the great work.

-AppCraver

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