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		<title>By: xxooxx</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: socialnetworkdesign</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857889</link>
		<dc:creator>socialnetworkdesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg twitter is doing just fine...all the buzz and amazing results we are all getting using Twitter correctly is proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg twitter is doing just fine&#8230;all the buzz and amazing results we are all getting using Twitter correctly is proof.</p>
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		<title>By: ZappingDigital.cl</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857888</link>
		<dc:creator>ZappingDigital.cl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice article!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh_UK</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857886</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh_UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry no there isn&#039;t, I could show you the script they used but that&#039;s about it. The names were randomly generated so you&#039;d end up blocking a lot of innocent people too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry no there isn&#39;t, I could show you the script they used but that&#39;s about it. The names were randomly generated so you&#39;d end up blocking a lot of innocent people too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio Abranches</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857887</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio Abranches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good analysis. There is also the case of people that sign up never tweet but read tweets of twitters they follow. Not quitters. I&#039;d call them latent users, perhaps with a steeper learning curve or a tighter time-frame. Sérgio Abranches @abranches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good analysis. There is also the case of people that sign up never tweet but read tweets of twitters they follow. Not quitters. I&#39;d call them latent users, perhaps with a steeper learning curve or a tighter time-frame. Sérgio Abranches @abranches</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Farmer</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857885</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it does not.  Those users will show up as non-retained users.  If they never tweeted, they won&#039;t show up in the 1+ tweets group, though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there a reliable way of identifying these accounts?  I can filter the data to exclude them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it does not.  Those users will show up as non-retained users.  If they never tweeted, they won&#39;t show up in the 1+ tweets group, though.</p>
<p>Is there a reliable way of identifying these accounts?  I can filter the data to exclude them.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh_UK</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857884</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh_UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this also take into account the mass account spamming that went on last month? One group created around 450,000 accounts in 24 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this also take into account the mass account spamming that went on last month? One group created around 450,000 accounts in 24 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Farmer</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857883</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is based on the source.  Their second report just included more sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is based on the source.  Their second report just included more sources.</p>
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		<title>By: NextMark</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857882</link>
		<dc:creator>NextMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point regarding the third party applications. I use the TweetLater service, but I&#039;d hope that Nielsen&#039;s research is based on posted activity and not the source of those posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s a good point regarding the third party applications. I use the TweetLater service, but I&#39;d hope that Nielsen&#39;s research is based on posted activity and not the source of those posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Farmer</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857881</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nielsen released an updated report with those third-party apps included, here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/update-return-of-the-twitter-quitters/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to them the numbers remain the same.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My question is, what is their methodology that they have to whitelist all the sources of Twitter traffic?  How would they know they aren&#039;t missing some key source of traffic?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can just get the data directly from the Twitter API.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, Nielsen has a vested interest in protecting their proprietary methodology, so nobody is ever going to be able to reproduce their results.  We&#039;ll just have to take their word for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My data, OTOH, I&#039;m going to release under a CC license once I find a place to host it for free.  You can also conduct the experiment yourself by generating a random list of Twitter IDs and fetching the data using the Twitter API.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>Nielsen released an updated report with those third-party apps included, here: <a href="http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/update-return-of-the-twitter-quitters/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobi.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobi..</a>.</p>
<p>According to them the numbers remain the same.</p>
<p>My question is, what is their methodology that they have to whitelist all the sources of Twitter traffic?  How would they know they aren&#39;t missing some key source of traffic?</p>
<p>You can just get the data directly from the Twitter API.</p>
<p>Of course, Nielsen has a vested interest in protecting their proprietary methodology, so nobody is ever going to be able to reproduce their results.  We&#39;ll just have to take their word for it.</p>
<p>My data, OTOH, I&#39;m going to release under a CC license once I find a place to host it for free.  You can also conduct the experiment yourself by generating a random list of Twitter IDs and fetching the data using the Twitter API.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Rohde</title>
		<link>http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/19/twitter-is-retaining-more-users-than-nielsen-thinks/comment-page-1/#comment-857880</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Rohde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also doesn&#039;t at all talk about the use of third-party apps to access Twitter - am I a quitter if i don&#039;t access &lt;a href=&quot;http://Twitter.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter.com&lt;/a&gt; for 30 days but use TweetDeck instead?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Poor research by Nielsen, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also doesn&#39;t at all talk about the use of third-party apps to access Twitter &#8211; am I a quitter if i don&#39;t access <a href="http://Twitter.com" rel="nofollow">Twitter.com</a> for 30 days but use TweetDeck instead?  </p>
<p>Poor research by Nielsen, IMO.</p>
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