The case against Khan Academy and for 3.5 million Sal Khans instead

Many in the school reform camp and their supporters in the Silicon Valley and Foundation crowds are crying out for education “disruption”, a word being tossed around very casually these days. Because it works in business, they understandably believe that new technology will be the vehicle and keystroke data will map the way. First off their lips as an example of what it might look like is the Bill Gates championed and very commendable Khan Academy.

The vision is to have 30 students at 30 computers or iPads each watching Khan videos, moving at their own pace and motivated by game mechanics. And the teacher in the classroom? The teacher is ostensibly walking around helping one here one there and analyzing data — essentially assisting Sal teach her students.

This seems to make sense, especially if the teacher in the room–now a teaching assistant or facilitator–isn’t really that good at teaching and especially if our goal is to transmit basic facts and knowledge. Every student moves at his or her own pace. Data is collected, analyzed and acted upon. Students help each other. And the facilitator keeps the electricity on and adds a few volts as needed, takes attendance.

I think there should be some schools/classes like this for it will suit certain kinds of courses and students–students who learn best the way Sal teaches or those who need to race ahead—and be a good fit for neighborhoods that have a hard time attracting teachers that are really good at teaching or that have budget shortfalls which make this better than the alternative. In fact, there already are schools like this and they call them blended or hybrid schools, something every school will be to one degree or another very soon. This is a necessary choice.

But my choice is for something even better than this. You see, the above scenario runs the risk of DEVALUING teachers even more.  Our best and brightest, the ones we hope to enter the teaching profession, are naturally proud people. They will only enter proud professions, well-paid empowering professions where they can meet their full potential.

Let’s say you are one of these, but the schools in your area want Sal to be the teacher. Would you agree to be a teacher assistant and facilitator rather than the teacher? No, you would not; you want to be Sal, you want to be the teacher. You want to teach because you know your stuff and you know how to teach it, and you will get better every year. You know how to assess kids and help those who are falling behind, and you get better at it every year. You know how to keep the gifted students in your classroom engaged and continuously learning and you get better at it every year, like Sal.

This is the school I’d want to send my son to, a school with incredibly high quality teachers–all Sals–who are able to make the wise (ie. human) choice of when and where to use technology and technology-delivered content (it was always thus with filmstrips, remember?) because they are the authorities in the room, they are the teachers. We need 3.5 million Sals and the good news is that they exist, many are in fact in place already. All we need to do is find a way to attract more of them to the field and to keep them there. Now that would be disruptive.

So Silicon Valley, I challenge you to help make teaching an even prouder and more empowering profession. Find innovative ways to pay teachers extravagantly, give them autonomy within a set of objectives (also called standards) and let them choose which technology to tap and when to tap it. Support and train continuously. This is where your innovative power should be directed! Help us to create and unleash 3,500,000 Sal Khans.

Paul Edelman is a former NYC public school teacher and the founder of TeachersPayTeachers, an open marketplace where teachers buy/sell/share original teaching materials. Teachers have earned over $2,000,000 to date on the site.

  • http://edsurge.com mattwbowman

    John Danner, CEO of blended-learning posterchild Rocketship Education, told me that the teachers in his classrooms still know way more about how their students learn and what they need to master than any of the adaptive software they use, which is why they're looking for more customizable tools that teachers can actively tweak, as opposed to “blackbox” automated options that try to handle all the content decisions. So even in the most technologically advanced schools, the screen is not replacing the teacher. However, the student-to-teacher ratio CAN be higher with blended learning, and teachers need even MORE advanced skills (data-analysis) to be effective. That means the prestige of teachers ought to grow with the increased implementation of disruptive technology.

  • http://twitter.com/Mike_Abasov Mike Abasov

    Wait a minute. Teaching is not about the teacher, it's about the student. Who cares if teachers want to be like Sal and do lectures? Khan Academy makes a shift in the way students learn and as I student, I wouldn't care less about regular lecturers becoming just “facilitators” or “assistants,” or even unemployed.History has known a lot of professions that had become redundant because of technology. I don't see any problem at all.

  • http://twitter.com/mchusma Chris Hawkins

    I agree with Mike that I could care less about the teachers, I care about students.  He says things like “So Silicon Valley…Find innovative ways to pay teachers extravagantly”.  Teacher pay is not the problem here, its student experience.  You certainly don't want to get so wrapped up in the new thing to accidentally lose quality teachers.  That said…I disagree that teachers would not want to be facilitators of learning (they already use textbooks and learning lessons).  This is so far from becoming a problem that it is frankly not even worth worrying about.  The reality is most teachers are not doing nearly as good a job as they can with the help of software, and its worth taking a crack at.That said, I think pay for performance and other tools can be useful too.

  • http://twitter.com/Aditya_Agarkar Aditya Agarkar

    I think sites and tools like these will free up teacher time and allow them to give more individual attention to students. Like any other profession, star teachers are rare. Sites like Khan Academy fills this gap by providing awesome supplemental content. What we really need is plenty of good content from many more good teachers like Sal and  diagnostic/education tools that can provide targeted content for every individual student based on their skill profile/learning style.

  • http://twitter.com/aliciac Alicia

    I think you're missing the point here. Khan Academy aims to “flip the classroom.” Thus, your purported vision of a classroom with 30 students at 30 computers or iPads watching videos is not the idea at all. In numerous talks, Sal Khan has repeatedly said that he does not see Khan Academy as a replacement for teachers or traditional curricula. He suggests having students watch the videos as “lectures for homework” at their own pace, rather than having a teacher lecture to all students one time only (without regard to how well they are each understanding the material at the time). The time in class is spent on actual practice problems, and teachers can provide individually tailored help to each student because s/he can see exactly which problems the student is having trouble with.I don't think this approach devalues teachers at all. I do agree, however, that the US education system would probably be in a much better place if we did have 3.5 million Sal Khans.

  • Eric Hayashi

    My kids have been on Khan Academy for close to two years andit’s a solid part of our homeschooling curriculum. I think Sal has done a greatjob with “gamifying” it (streaks, badges) to get kids engaged. Candidly, I use the site to stay several steps ahead of my kids :) But it’sa tool – just like videos, field trips, reading a book, a classroom lesson or, dare I say it,engaged parenting.  As technology evolves,so will the way we learn, and the greatest benefit will come from finding abalance between “traditional” schooling and the use of technology. Teachers needto evolve by finding ways utilize tools like KA to their students advantage –and if they can, I don’t see how their value will be marginalized.

  • sgannes

    TeachersPayTeachers is cool. It's not practice like Khan. You need both.

  • Pavan_Ongole

    Khan Academy is a brilliant idea executed to perfection. Can it get better – of course, everything always can get some more better. Can/Should it be used to a level where entire education systems gets wrapped around it/similar idea/s. That would be stretching a good thing too far.What Sal is doing, leaving out scaling issues aside, as a great aid. It is a great aid now for students and it could well be for teachers too, should they manage to use it well. But physical teaching/teachers, schooling/schools are beyond articulating and explaining a complex topic well. Education system, designed in Industrial age, needs a revisit all over the globe and technology integration can obviously help, but dreaming up a class where every student peers into a screen all the time – is what it is – an ill conceived or thought through bright idea ! I recently finished my MBA and felt there was nothing I learned about a subject that I could not pick up from text books, but did that make professors(teachers) redundant? No, to the contrary, they move up value chain leaving aside the invaluable humane side, contextual, cultural and coaching part of schooling. Like anything else that gets “improved” by technology.If you put current schooling systems and home-schooling on two ends of spectrum, technology and education models like those of Sal can help move to a middle ground, hopefully an improvised version of schooling !!

  • testinganything

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  • vbcontributor

    @mattwbowman:disqus Excellent piece of inside info from Danner who is on the leading edge of the digital-differentiated instruction movement. Not surprised to hear that he has learned that algorithms have proven far weaker than a (good) teacher's abilities when it comes to assessment. Indeed, digital learning can help reduce teaching staff. Though that may be a budgetary blessing, not so sure it's ultimately the goal. Of course, digital instruction will not replace teachers, but it will shift their roles considerably. As mentioned in my piece, this is a necessary choice and often the best option. But I'd rather have great digital content AND the absolute best teachers in the world. Over time, if we focus — and then come to rely on — the former, we may neglect the latter. @twitter-15716402:disqus  and @twitter-179647045:disqus   Education is about students AND teachers, just as say baseball is about the players and the fans. You can't value one and not the other. @twitter-66254510:disqus You're right that digital courses used in classrooms frees up the teacher to act more like a tutor. This is part of my point. It's sort of a good thing in theory, but if you are super smart 20 year-old who is passionate about literature and you are thinking about becoming an English teacher, will you choose to do it if you will be asked to act more like a tutor in the class? Maybe. I can see a day coming when there will be two kinds of schools: schools that have kids mostly learn digitally with a limited number of teacher/facilitator/tutors and then schools who ask that their content expert teachers do the teaching and then use digital instruction as a supplement. If you are absolutely passionate about your subject, which school will you choose to teach in? If you are a parent, which school do you want to send your kids to?@twitter-14607448:disqus Well, Sal himself said “…and eventually I want it to become the operating system for what goes on the classroom where every student is allowed to work at their own pace and where the teacher becomes more of a mentor or coach.” You can see it in the Bill Gates/Sal Khan introductory video on the official Khan Academy YouTube page at 1:30 here: http://www.youtube.com/user/kh…@google-4b0941e7d6cffcbc988c38e7165c8ff5:disqus Yes it's a wonderful tool that real teachers should tap, I agree. If, as Sal and Bill say, the teacher is now a mentor, that's not so much an evolution as a devolution.@sgannes:disqus Thanks, yes, TpT is super cool! Of course, it's just a tool, too. There is no silver bullet in education. Let me repeat that, there is no silver bullet in education! But if you put 50 really really good teachers in a building with a strong principal and great digital content to tap, you will get results.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3104420 Chuck Cohn

    Khan Academy doesn't attempt to improve upon the schools with the best teachers. It's an alternative for schools with bad teachers (which is probably half to 2/3 of this countries' schools). It's completely unfair to say “Khan Academy isn't viable because it isn't better than a school with the best teachers”. The best schools will probably never utilize Khan Academy because they have truly gifted teachers who can effectively teach. But it could improve the learning environment substantially for the average school substantially because they don't have amazing teachers.

  • vbcontributor

    @facebook-3104420:disqus  Ah, so let the poor kids get stuck with the videos. Bill Gates calls it revolutionary but in reality it's a band-aid masquerading as a cure and ultimately a distraction. The goal should be to get great teachers in EVERY school. It's hard to do, but we can do it. If you read my piece carefully, you will see that I don't consider the Khan Academy and other digital instruction models “not viable” as you say, but rather as a necessary option and often the best choice. I am warning against mistaking this for the cure to our education ills, and I fear that it will be all too easy to say, well, they have those digital courses now in those schools so let's not worry too much about filling them with great teaching talent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=580332546 Jay Godse

    Although a lot of people may think so, the education system isn't flawed mainly because of poor teachers. It is flawed because the structure of the systems and people charged with delivery of education is flawed. Excellent teachers can overcome these structural flaws, but that is not the norm. Proud and independent teachers who lead the classroom often use textbooks written by others to guide learning. Using the new medium of YouTube videos is no different. Here's why. If you listen to Khan's interviews with various media folks, his vision is to have student use Khan videos for about half the time to learn basics. After that, the teacher could lead learning sessions where students solved rich, open-ended and real-world problems. I'm sure that proud independent teachers would be happier doing that then schlepping single-answer text-book problems all day. The Khan Academy's method of teaching math concepts is structurally superior to that in public education systems. A math concept cannot be learned effectively if you don't understand 100% of the prerequisite concepts. Knowing 70% or 80% is not enough.  You need 100%. Khan's methods let kids work at their own pace to reach 100% before going to the next advanced topics. Public schools move everybody at the same pace in math, even if only 5% of the class understands 100% of the prerequisites. That just makes teaching math harder and more expensive year after year. Deficits in math eventually manifest themselves as deficits in science, economics, geography, and other subjects. The Khan Academy has nothing for using math concepts to solve rich open-ended and real-world problems. That takes a teacher. Khan Academy makes this part of the job easier for teachers because it enables more students to master basic concepts before using to solve these open-ended problems. The biggest problem in math education is at the elementary school level. Many, if not most, elementary school teachers are graduates of arts programs in university where learning advanced topics effectively is not strongly dependent on mastery of prerequisite concepts. With math, learning advanced topics effectively is strongly dependent on mastery of prerequisite concepts.  When they those arts graduates start running the education system, they structure math education in the same way as their arts education because that is what they know. We have long known that public math education is not effective because students are not required to master prerequisite concepts before moving to advanced concepts. Private tutoring companies such as Sylvan and Kumon earn large amounts of money on private math tutoring, and a lot of it is by getting  their students to master concepts that they should have mastered (sometimes many) years ago. By the way, one reason Sal Khan is an effective teacher is because he is beholden neither to  education bureaucracy, nor curriculum constraint, nor requirement to produce “professional looking” content. Most teachers are not so free to teach effectively. Also, Sal Khan does not have to deal with a single-grade classroom where the skill level spans 6 grades, nor does he have to deal with social problems of students, nor parents, nor report cards and individual assessments, nor learning disabilities, nor teaching subjects in which he has no expertise. Being an effective public school teacher is tough not because of teaching, but because of all these constraints and requirements. The Khan Academy is a boon to the education system because it offers an alternate educational structure which is more effective for students, and frees teachers to lead the exploration and solution of rich open-ended real-world problems.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=580332546 Jay Godse

    We can't get great teachers into every school. To do that, we need to spend more money attracting teachers, more money continuously developing teachers, and a willingness to remove bad teachers. Taxpayers are not willing to foot the bill for that. 

  • http://twitter.com/aliciac Alicia

    Fair enough to say that Sal Khan sees that as an ultimate goal. But 'eventually' being far off into the future, I still don't think it's fair to criticize this aspiration as an argument for relegating teachers to assistants. The overarching idea is to have kids use classroom time doing worked examples with one-on-one teacher time. In that case, having an excellent teacher is crucial.Glad to see this as an active discussion.

  • http://www.ascensionhealthventures.com/ Chuck Cohn

    Totally agree – it's not the end game. And I agree that education desperately needs innovation that empowers teachers. But Khan Academy, as you admit, may be the a good alternative right now for some schools.  Given that it's hardly used in schools at all now and I haven't any groundbreaking tools that empower teachers, I think the site deserves the  attention it gets. Hopefully, something comes along in the future that is far more powerful.

  • RWEJD

    “It's about the learning, stupid”  We need to get better at pre- and post-assessment, with certifications coming at shorter intervals. Learning on demand, after basics have been mastered. High quality teachers will be necessary to optimize these environments. Read “Drive” by Dan Pink. Also, consider that schools are managed in a way that resembles factories; that doesn't work for knowledge work. Read Drucker for 'Modern Management”.

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