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Marc Andreessen & Bill Gates agree with Fox News on this: Snowden is a traitor

Silicon Valley investor and technologist Marc Andreessen today declared NSA whistleblower Ed Snowden a traitor on national television.

Andreessen has defended the NSA in the past, but the investor’s latest statements mirror those of Bill Gates, countless U.S. government officials, and, of course, Fox News.

Although Andreessen does not speak for the entire tech industry, his words hold great weight; he created the first popular Web browser, played a role in the development of HTML, and now maintains local-celebrity status as a cofounder of VC giant Andreessen Horowitz.

You can check out Andreessen’s full interview [below], but here’s the money quote:

For me obviously he’s a traitor. If you look up in the encyclopedia ‘traitor,’ there’s a picture of Ed Snowden.

The Snowden reveals keep coming out. The [Obama] administration is letting the NSA out to dry. They’re letting the American tech industry out to dry.

Back at the Snowden-hero camp, you’ll find Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak.

More information:

Andreessen Horowitz is a $950 million venture capital firm that was launched on July 6, 2009. Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz are the general partners of the firm.... read more »

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CatchOpenQgates
CatchOpenQgates

That's old fashioned and might go together with a lack of knowledge about the difference between traitor & whistle blower? @VentureBeat

sgarbesi
sgarbesi

@VentureBeat guy deserves a medal. traitor? nah. hero? yea. did more for the people than any president in the past 12yrs+

asanjum
asanjum

@VentureBeat US government & US tech companies collaborating on mass surveillance agree - Snowden is a traitor

Марош Янига
Марош Янига

Yes, traitor ! Same as famous traitorous 8 - one of which was the Intel founder :)

Tom Griffin
Tom Griffin

it's nice to hear he isn't in lockstep with everyone else in the Silicon Valley. There is more than one point of view.

Ajay Desai
Ajay Desai

And dude, stick to fixing India before you think about America. And learn how to program something halfway decent before you call yourself a computer programmer.

Ajay Desai
Ajay Desai

So you think that the leaking of classified documents is not an act of treason?

Rahul Vemuri
Rahul Vemuri

Not all Indians are misinformed as this brainwashed complicit turd over here.

Anthony Hesse
Anthony Hesse

He's even better looking wearing his Glass. What a Glasshole.

Anthony Hesse
Anthony Hesse

Why dint you jump a plane back to India you useless piece of shit.

Anthony Hesse
Anthony Hesse

And against the rest of the world as well including ALL of our allies.

Anthony Hesse
Anthony Hesse

If what Snowden did put more tech money in Andreessen's pockets he'd be calling Snowden a hero.

Vero Tabares
Vero Tabares

The intelligence community would disagree with that statement.

Cory Weston
Cory Weston

Nope. Only those who lack intelligence call him a traitor.

Joe Chernov
Joe Chernov

Wait, Andreessen has an encyclopedia? How analog of him.

Nicholas M. Cummings
Nicholas M. Cummings

He helped stage Putin and he's given names and security secrets. He's done some good too, but helping Putin look good (and whatever behind-the-scenes deal he may have) is hypocritical

Guy Hodges
Guy Hodges

I can only imagine how quickly they would have shut him up if he tried the suggested ways of whistle blowing. Would have probably disappeared by now. Seems pretty smart to me and more of a hero than a traitor. I really don't care what Bill Gates or Marc Andreessen care!

Paul Creekmore
Paul Creekmore

Exposing the illegal spying on Americans, the enemy of the government? Ok then he's a traitor. An act Microsoft is in collusion with the NSA.

Aaron Christopher Cohen
Aaron Christopher Cohen

His argument seems to be "He's a traitor because he revealed how the tech industry has sold out its customers to the government and made billions in the process and now everyone's all upset that we're facilitating mass surveillance and moving their data and services to countries with actual data protection laws and this is costing me money!"

Will Smith
Will Smith

Billionaires hate the system! Taxes!

Aron Filbert
Aron Filbert

Fact: The Obama Admin has used the Espionage Act against more whistleblowers than any previous admin combined. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jan/10/jake-tapper/cnns-tapper-obama-has-used-espionage-act-more-all-/ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130620/18182823551/obama-administration-has-declared-war-leakers-claims-any-leak-is-aiding-enemy.shtml http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/obamas-whistleblowers-stuxnet-leaks-drones You're willfully ignorant to assert that whistleblowers aren't up against more persecution in recent years. Fact: Claims of treason against Snowden don't pass Constitutional muster. http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/edward-snowden-is-no-traitor/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/12/no-edward-snowden-probably-didnt-commit-treason/ Snowden cares that the American people know what's being done without their knowledge and how it can be used against them. Because of that, he's changed the conversation. People know, and using that knowledge and proof has already led to revelations of pervasive abuse of power and dishonesty. The tricky thing about FOIA is knowing what to ask, now, since Snowden's revelations, there have been three times the amount of FOIA requests. Also, Snowden himself tried to use "proper" channels and was shut down. The NSA lied about mass surveillance, even to a Federal Judge, so why should we trust them on their accounting of his actions before the leaks? They've lost all credibility in the public eye. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/snowden-complained-about-mass-surveillance-tactics-to-his-nsa-masters/

Erich Cervantez
Erich Cervantez

I'm sure there's a list somewhere of German "traitors" that helped saved some Jews during WW2. It's all about perspective.

Diego Bronstein
Diego Bronstein

That just figures. He betrayed their collaboration efforts with big brother, exposing the largest, systematic effort to eavesdrop on millions of people. Of course he's a traitor! A good one. We need more traitors like this, so that the elite encounters at least some partisan resistance. If there is no resistance to this, the US is in danger of being obliterated by a massive government, ruler of all existence.

Joshua Darlington
Joshua Darlington

Reputation attack is an import part of the US anti hacktivist strategy. The US is still in the post 911 state of emergency aka state of exception. It's a type of martial law. Or the legal system is subsumed to national security concerns. See gitmo. In that environment a whistleblower like snowden could be suppressed as a security threat outside of common sense whistle blower legitimacy and proper channels. Oligarchs who need to jockey for gov subsidies will cooperate w state security operations according to their own calculations.

Ajay Desai
Ajay Desai

No. Microsoft funded the legal fund to prevent the government from unwarranted taps and requests. They also have successfully disregarded requests on 2 separate occasions.

Ajay Desai
Ajay Desai

There is no "toxic" environment for whistle blowers. He had many avenues to exhaust, including getting on TV and saying, "Hey they are doing something that I don't like, please news media, do a FOIA inquiry.

Ajay Desai
Ajay Desai

Of course he is a traitor, anyone that thinks otherwise is too stupid to have an opinion. Everything up to the point of leaking classified documents was fine. Leak a classified document? You are a traitor. Most of you people are too stupid to comment on matters of national security.

Brian  Linville
Brian Linville

Has "Fox News" become the next "Sarah Palin"? Bad journalists just need to work "Fox News" into the title, even if it has nothing to do with the story, and more people will click on it. Sad.

Kelly Tompkins
Kelly Tompkins

Is Andressen the lost Conehead's sibling?... the one that never made it into the final cut?

Rob Stretch
Rob Stretch

I will admit that this actually makes me think about it more.

Allan Bush
Allan Bush

What's with the Headline? How is it relevant that Andreessen and Gates agree with Fox News? Are you implying that their opinions are promoting Roger Ailes' agenda? Pretty lame.

Joel Reyna
Joel Reyna

Marc, Bill and others in Silicon Valley depend on government agencies like the NSA for part of their income. How do you think Mosaic got started - with government subsidies and grants. Ask Elon Musk what he thinks and he will say something along the same lines or deflect the question in some way. I would say the same thing if government money was helping me. Money, Money, Money.......

Jack S Wolfie
Jack S Wolfie

No, and these assholes calling him one are hypocrites at best.

Tan Nguyen
Tan Nguyen

Right on, Marc - calling a spade a spade!

Donald C. Kirker
Donald C. Kirker

Chung Yang, I put a comment on Doug Topken's comment that pretty much answers this. In Snowden's efforts to avoid being given back to the U.S. by an ally he made a strategic error to go to a nation that is currently on uneven ground with the U.S. Great opportunity for the government to position him as a traitor. And how better to do it than strike the anti-communist/anti-Russian nerve in the American Sheeple? Who knows? Maybe he does have an ulterior motive. If so, I'll admit that I was wrong. But that hasn't been apparent so far.