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Should Microsoft sell off the Xbox brand?

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Since Microsoft made the decision to cut the Kinect from the Xbox One you may have heard reports that sales of the console have more than doubled, but this is just a clever marketing spin to paint the Xbox One in a more favorable light.

Despite the Xbox One’s price drop the PS4 outpaced it by  36% in June. Microsoft is trying its hardest to hide the fact that sales for 2014 have been so poor, that they’ve been selling from their surplus inventory and have barely had to manufacture new consoles.

Last quarter, Microsoft reported 2 million total console sales. This included 1.2 million Xbox Ones and 800,000 Xbox 360s. This quarter Microsoft announced a grand total of 1.1 million console sales and if we take those numbers and assume the 360 is still selling similarly then we arrive at only 300,000 Xbox Ones sold for the quarter ending in May. Just as a comparison, that puts the Xbox One on par with Nintendo’s notoriously poor seller, the Wii U, for their May quarter.

How is it possible for Microsoft to sell nearly 197,000 Xbox Ones in the U.S. in June if it has shipped 300,000 worldwide for the entire quarter? It’s because Microsoft has been sitting on too many consoles and it’s now selling out of its backlogged stockpile.

The new CEO of Microsoft, Satya Nadella, wrote a 3,100 word memo on the future of the company in which he only spent one paragraph talking about the Xbox brand. This has led many to speculate that Nadella isn’t committed to it and that talks of spinning the Xbox brand off of the main company could begin anew.

Since the original Xbox’s release Microsoft has always planned to use the machine to take over consumer’s living rooms. They saw the Xbox as the one stop home entertainment box that would play video games, movies, music and television. The recent cancellation of the Xbox TV service is but the latest reversal of nearly every decision they’ve made about the Xbox One since before it was released.

A lack of a defined vision for the Xbox One has clearly hurt its sales numbers. This isn’t the only place Microsoft appears to be floundering, the company now only accounts for 1% of the combined PC and tablet market. To make matters worse Microsoft recently announced that 18,000 employees will be laid off over the course of the year.

With so many things dragging it down does it make sense for Microsoft to cut their losses and sell off the Xbox brand? After all they don’t just make video games and perhaps the sale of such a popular brand would give them the capital they need to reinvigorate the company.


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41 comments
Jaime Sanchez
Jaime Sanchez

Sega should buy it and get back in the console race.

Mike Bourbon
Mike Bourbon

What?  Was there any research done in this article that involved obtaining facts that may disprove the articles main tenants?  First, Xbox One isn't available worldwide.  Secondly sales of the XB1 outpaced the sales of the 360 (360's first 6 months of sales vs XB1's first 6 months of sales).  The 360 was never considered a failure and XB1 will probably be as successful if not more-so.  

What you have to consider is corporate ownership.  Microsoft makes close to 25 billion a quarter.  Sony has lost so much they had to sell their headquarters in Japan and then rent it back to help reduce costs.  How long can Sony maintain a fight in the console market against MS when they lose money on each machine they sell?

John Doe
John Doe

This actually makes sense. The Xbox brand is very irrelevant at this point. Microsoft could go 3rd party because Xbox is really just a Halo playaer and a PS4/Nintendo wannabe since the beginning.

Nathan Topousis
Nathan Topousis

Article forgot to mention that the "sales" they've been reporting have been shipped units, not actual sold. Anyway, every console struggles at the start of it's life, the PS4 is just a fluke. Generally, people don't buy a system until there's games worth playing on it. Right now, there aren't games to play on the X1, but there still is on 360 and PS3, so people aren't rushing out to buy one. Once games like Sunset Overdrive, Halo, and Scalebound all drop, then sales will increase.


Also, giving up less than a year into the system's life would be an incredibly stupid thing for MS to do. It's obvious they aren't going to either. The 360 is still profitable, and they're working on making the X1 an actual gaming console now, so that it will turn profitable. The 360 wasn't profitable at launch either, but they didn't give up then.

Josh Abram
Josh Abram

Yes they should sell it and Sony should buy them out. Win Win 

Tony Mac II
Tony Mac II

<<After all they don’t just make video games and perhaps the sale of such a popular brand would give them the capital they need to reinvigorate the company.>>-article

Microsoft is still sitting on billions in cash--2nd or 3rd in line to Apple. Microsoft isn't hurting in cash and the 18,000 employees cut come at a savings--mostly to the peril of Nokia employees acquired in the acquisition. 

Tony Mac II
Tony Mac II

What a mis-informed article. Xbox Ones will sell a lot more once Halo The Masterchief Collection & Halo 5 release in November and 2015 respectively.


Investors ONLY see the BOTTOMLINE, but not the future. 


Halo is to Xbox as Mario is to Nintendo--they both sell systems.

Paul Feasal
Paul Feasal

Microsoft can still save the XBOX. It needs to start by using social media to give comments on how they can improve their console. They mad several marketing mistakes. They tried to use the Kinect as their major source and spent a good amount of money on it. They should have analyzed their sales, before putting it out again. They should have spent their money on good hardware such as a better processor with more speed. Next they have had issues with overheating and adding a Quad core processor will make it worse without proper ventilation, fans and Heat sinks. Having a good amount of space for their hard drive and having a cloud for storage is a great idea! XBOX has some great games that would have skyrocketed if they implicated a system that they could use both Kinect or a controller for their games. Fables the journey sales would have quadrupled if it was not just for Kinect. I would start by getting information from all your employees and customers. This will help them in the long run. This is an implication of miscommunication in the upper levels of management and does not act as a good management structure. You need to change the face of your business like McDonalds did back in 2002. This means their is a gap between management, its workers and customers. This should be a major concern. They identified the cause and did nothing about until it hit them. There CEO hopefully can fix these issues in the future and start studying other companies. It is a good thing that they got a new CEO. The other one got slapped in the face with the social media about his decisions and still did it despite the warnings. I have token some classes with management that CEO was running Microsoft into the ground.

Mary Townsend
Mary Townsend

Well I guess I will just have the XBox 360 and the Original then I knew this was going to happen 

Jason Goodman
Jason Goodman

Spinning off the Xbox brand may not be a good idea. Considering that it has never been profitable, it would be unable to survive on its own, and I doubt anyone would want to buy it. A better option from a money-making perspective would be to simply ditch Xbox entirely and have Microsoft Studios be a third-party publisher. MS's software IPs are arguably more valuable than their hardware, and with Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Crackdown, and various Rare games being published on PlayStation and Nintendo, they'd probably get a bigger global audience considering that Xbox doesn't do nearly as well outside the U.S. and UK. Their games are good, but their hardware is hurting them. But I do think that there's a good chance the XBO may be the last Xbox console. Of the "Big Three" console brands, Xbox is the most expendable to its parent company. PlayStation is one of Sony's better-performing units, and Nintendo is absolutely dependent on hardware, which is usually quite profitable for them.

It's also worth mentioning the Xbox brand has gotten by based largely on pure luck. Had MS never bought Bungie, thus giving them Halo, the original Xbox would have failed utterly. The 360 did as well as it did mainly because of the mistakes Sony made; the PS3 cost a lot more than the 360, it was hard to program for, thus resulting in ports of multiplat games that were often inferior to the 360 version, and Sony's online infrastructure wasn't as good back then. Had the PS3 launched at the same time for the same price as the 360, was easier to program for, and had PSN been as robust as XBL, it's likely the 360 would have languished, selling largely to devoted Halo fans like myself. The 360 was mainly rushing in to fill a power vacuum left by Sony. It would have done okay based on its own merits, but it wouldn't have sold anywhere close to the 80 million units it has. In fact, the only reason it did as well as it did in Europe was because of a series of three price cuts, one in late 2007 and two more in 2008, that culminated in the 360 costing only 60% that of the PS3's then-current price. The 360 was stagnating in Europe from launch through 2007, but in 2008 alone it nearly doubled its lifetime sales. Even then, there was never a year where the 360 beat the PS3 in Europe. In Japan, the 360 has sold triple the original Xbox, but the original Xbox sold only half a million units, and the only reason the 360 did as well as it did was because MS bought the exclusivity rights to a number of notable JRPGs and other Japanese titles. Still, Japan generated only 2% of global 360 sales, same as the original. Xbox sales are heavily biased towards English-speaking countries. Mainland Europe has always been PlayStation Country, and Japan doesn't give a rip about Xbox. The Wii U has already passed the 360 in lifetime sales in Japan.

Now we see PlayStation resurgent again with a system with a reasonable price point, better multiplats on average, and a robust online service. Meanwhile bad PR from a year ago hurt the XBO's credibility early on, but more importantly MS insisted on bundling Kinect, thus making it $100 more expensive than the PS4. While the Kinect-less SKU did improve sales a good bit in the U.S., it's uncertain if that will last. Meanwhile, the XBO is getting absolutely slaughtered in Europe. It's doing about as well market share-wise in the UK, but on the continent it's a mess. It's in third place this year in France and Germany, trailing behind the Wii U. It's also pretty obvious that it will bomb in Japan like its predecessors did. Poor sales momentum is tough to overcome, and with little to set the XBO apart from the PS4 aside from its small selection of exclusives, there's no reason for consumers to start drifting back towards the XBO. The XBO will be lucky to sell even half of what the 360 did, and a massive reduction in sales for the brand compared with the brand's general lack of profitability over the years, investors are probably going to demand that MS Studios ditch the hardware. They may not want MS to invest a bunch of money into R&D for a fourth system. MS does not need Xbox, and they would probably make more money just selling software as a third party. It's possible that the fourth time would be the charm and Xbox stages a comeback, but I doubt it unless Sony pulls a PS3-level screw up with the PS5.

Jeremiah Greenawalt
Jeremiah Greenawalt

its amazing how people are ripping Microsoft apart over slower sales, when back when the PS3 released, its sales were also horrible and people thought that sony might be going out of business or that the playstation brand might be dying, its like shut the hell up, microsoft is continuing to improve the xbox one, greats games have been out and are coming out, its a solid system with great features, the same goes with the ps4, so everyone should just shut the hell up and enjoy playing great games

Dan Thane
Dan Thane

Xbox sales are slow because the UI is really a downgrade in terms of functionality, isn't nowhere as useful or dynamic as its predecessor's (xbox 360), the price point seems to turn people off (I don't know why people complain so much when 9 years ago Sony debuted with a $600+ system) and the Kinect bundle seems to be unpopular with consumers. But, the biggest reason for X-ones middling performance is due to the lack of quality game library. It's launch had about 1 'killer' app (Forza 5) and since then the only game they've added to their library thats worth mentioning is Titanfall. If your Systems best game is a racing simulator (the demographic for that isn't that large) and your second best game is an online only shooter and that the best you have to offer in a span of 9 months...then we won't see too much success. Both games aren't as enticing as Halo 1 once was when Xbox 1 debuted or is a grand theft auto/gears of War/ kind of AAA title that truly brings people in. 


By November this year the X-One will (HOPEFULLY) have a vastly improved UI, and a library consisting of the additions of: GTA V, Destiny, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Collection, Forza Horizons 2, Killer Instinct season 2, The new Call of Duty, EVOLVE, Assassin's Creed 2, Fable Legends, Tomb Raider 2, Dance Central Spotlight, all the annual sports title releases, and a slew of Indie games.

Ben Smith
Ben Smith

google xbox sounds so much better

Mike  Hall
Mike Hall

the public ire against ms has really less to do with the xbox and more to do with a growing disconnect between ms and its customers.  people are finally feeling the wasted money being spent on countless upgrades which dismantle pc's, a poor customer service response, i was hung up on twice trying to get help with windows 8, and the inability to fix problems in a timely manner.  ie:  IE's security flaws.  xbox one came out of the gate with lower resolution, no 3d blu-ray support, no dolby digital audio, etc.  xbox 360/ps3 have better specs than the nextgen consoles.  if ms wants to saves themselves, maybe they should ask their long time customers, what THEY want instead thinking of their own wants.  ms' continued zeal to be "first" in this game is being eroded by poor planning and rushing products out of the gate.  this article only showcases one of many issues with ms, and im sure its not the only issue. 

I\'m Dvoraak
I\'m Dvoraak

There really isn't much doubt that MS is currently floundering. The short-sighted agenda of the previous CEO and a lack of any prescience in an industry MS helped invent may be destined to become required research in business education. However, there's no denying the popularity of X-Box, even with poor sales. They let a monumental miscalculation of what gamers want give Sony a leg up in the console race but that doesn't mean the X-Box is a complete failure. It's the closest thing MS has to a popular product. 


When you're trying your best to NOT look like you're actually too stupid to survive in the PC industry, you don't sell off the one product you have that people actually like. 

mike olson
mike olson

K. Where is your research? Microsofts stock is falling, sony's is going up. You have no clue what Sony makes or loses on each ps4. You don't know much about any of this. Microsoft is all about making money, if Xbox isn't profitable anymore, it won't be wanted by shareholders

mike olson
mike olson

The 360 didn't have competition pounding it into the ground either. Microsoft shareholders will want heads rolling around on the ground in awhile

Ryan Kosior
Ryan Kosior

Who wins exactly? Sony? Nope, they don't have enough money to buy it out, and if they tried the company would go under within a year. The consumer? Definitely not, less competition means higher prices and fewer innovations. The gaming industry? Try again, with only Sony and Nintendo in the race, the industry would eventually collapse on itself unless another company came into the picture.

Only a fool would think that would be a good idea.

John Doe
John Doe

@Tony Mac II Microsoft is sitting on billions but those billions will dry up quickly if Xbox and Windows continue die. Microsoft faces rough competition with Apple and Google. If Microsoft loses control over their PC OS monopoly, they will be in trouble. Xbox loses money and drags down other divisions.

mike olson
mike olson

Like Titanfall did? Like the removal of kinect and a price drop did?

Tony Mac II
Tony Mac II

@Paul Feasal Microsoft anticipated what Apple was anticipating--winning the LIVING ROOM.


Apple won the mobile phone device(early on, only to lose lots of market share to Samsung) and Apple was on its way to pumping Apple TV(trying to get Apple TV into every living room.)


Microsoft saw what Apple was doing & attempted to out-do Apple Tv with the Xbox One. Xbox One DOES outshine Apple TV in many ways.. but whoops! Both Apple & Microsoft got it wrong & didn't anticipate the popularity of ROKU over-taking many people's media needs. Samsung Smart TV's also stole Microsoft & Apple's intentions of owning the living room. 


Ever goto a Microsoft Store retail store? It's evident that Microsoft was really aiming for Apple, rather than anyone else--but guessed wrong (with Apple) about winning the living rooms of America & the world.

Tony Mac II
Tony Mac II

@Mary Townsend This is a misinformed article from someone that does not play video games. Everyone knows Mario Brothers sell Nintendo systems, as well as Halo sells Xbox Systems. 


A brand new HALO game will be released in November 2014. Sales numbers won't be available until about January 2015, and in 2015 is when all of the big games release for both PS4 and Xbox One. But Halo is a system mover--You can bet on that. 


Call of Duty games ALSO will have exclusive content for Xbox One 1 full month in advance of the PS4--the timeliness of release being very important with gamers. Who's a true gamer if you're playing it a full 1 month later? (when gamers are competitively playing online?)

Tony Mac II
Tony Mac II

@Jason Goodman The Wii U, worldwide(forget Japan) is hurting. The largest Video Game Market in the world--the US-- is just coming around to the Wii U. 


Though Nintendo had a great E3, the Wii U still lagged behind the Xbox One in sales. Gamers are still apt to spending $100 to $200 more for a console than the Wii U--which will have better games releasing in 2015 but will also face the many IP's Microsoft & Sony have releasing later this year & in 2015.


Licensing Microsoft's IP is a bad idea. Look at Sega! Everyone thought Sega becoming a software company & licensing itself to game consoles was going to strongly enhance the company. It's move DID save the company, but Sega is hardly anything even a fraction of the size of EA or Activision even. From being one of the largest console makers to being smaller than EA or Activision is rather paltry to be happy about.

Jason Goodman
Jason Goodman

@Jeremiah Greenawalt The difference between the PS3 and XBO is that the PS3 actually had strong international appeal. The Xbox brand appeals mainly to Anglosphere countries. The US and UK alone have generated nearly two-thirds of all 360 sales and about three-quarters of all XBO sales. Mainland Europe is responsible for only fifth of all 360 sales, and Japan a mere 2%. Even with all the disadvantages and reduced market share, the PS3 still managed to sell much better than the 360 in mainland Europe, and in Japan Xbox barely even registers. The XBO can never hope to have even PS3-level success by placing second in the US & UK and being largely ignored almost everywhere else.

Wade  Wilson
Wade Wilson

@Jeremiah Greenawalt Here is the MAJOR difference...The PlayStation brand has always been profitable for Sony even when those profits took time...Microsoft on the other hand has NEVER made one single solitary penny off of the Xbox brand, it has done nothing but cost them money.....At least Sony finally had the brains to dump their computer/laptop division since it wasn't making money..... So when you use your brain from a business standpoint something Xbots don't do or understand A company with a problem like the Xbox might look to get rid of that division that has again NEVER turned a profit for them

TexasBoyCapCity Lop.
TexasBoyCapCity Lop.

Don't forget the ps3 was 20gb for $499 while the xbox 360 was $299 with a year ahead of playstation of course the sells were low. This is diffrent both ps4 and xbox one released in the same month and price not very diffrent even now that xbox did a price xut sony is still selling better. But I also agree that the xbox one is a good console and I will buy in the future.

TexasBoyCapCity Lop.
TexasBoyCapCity Lop.

Don't forget the ps3 was 20gb for $499 while the xbox 360 was $299 with a year ahead of playstation of course the sells were low. This is diffrent both ps4 and xbox one released in the same month and price not very diffrent even now that xbox did a price xut sony is still selling better.

Kris Stevenson
Kris Stevenson

@Jeremiah Greenawalt  Microshaft brought this upon themselves with their horrible business practices, policies and restrictions. Oh, and releasing a machine with inferior internals didn't help much either.

meme notu
meme notu

@Dan Thane You forgot to mention the massive slap in the face to their customers last year which made people say they will not be buying this gens system from them.

Or the push for cloud based gaming.

Or the push to remove peoples ownership rights.

Or the focus on non-game related things.

Or the subpar hardware.

meme notu
meme notu

@I\'m Dvoraak Define popular.

in the industry, it is not.

in the world, it is not.

with their previous consumers, it is not.

Right now, in the gaming industry the One has the most hate against it in history, for its design, its implementation and its focus on non-game related things that caused a hardware design that is so sub-par its compared more with the Wii-U than the PS4.

Obviously world-wide the system is a joke when it comes to being popular.

With previous consumers? Most were slapped in the face with comments about how the beloved 360 is a relic of the past along with its players and no one willing to embrace a future where gaming is vastly different should keep using it and it got so bad that many Xbox fan sites turned against the company and have been slamming them and the system for over a year.

Jason Goodman
Jason Goodman

@Tony Mac II I brought up the Wii U solely as a point of comparison with the XBO in Europe, but since you want to talk about it, I'll bite. The Wii U is indeed in third place in the U.S., but the Xbox brand was always strongest in Anglosphere countries. Mainland Europe has been ignoring the XBO, as will Japan when it releases there. The Wii U faltered because it lacked the games and marketing it needed. It had very little ad time on TV and what few ads it had didn't do anything to sell people on the system. It had a massive drought, with an eight-month dry spell between launch and the releases of Pikmin 3. While it's doing better thanks to MK8, it's not going to have the stellar comeback that systems like the PS1 did. The system lacks the ingredients that made the Wii a success, it had its momentum absolutely destroyed after launch because of the drought and bad marketing, and even now the release schedule is rather sparse.

The XBO is faltering because up until a few weeks ago it cost more than the PS4 and because the brand cannot succeed in Europe unless Sony does something to hurt themselves. It's at a somewhat decent second place in the US and UK, but its momentum was hurt by that initial high price point. Considering that both the XBO and PS4 share at least 90% of the same games, there's not a whole lot to differentiate the two. The XBO had the Kinect, but it's clear that most consumers don't see enough value in it to justify spending an extra $100 for it. With the momentum damaged, there's precious little MS can do to rectify the situation. There are only two things known to stimulate sales, and those are games and price cuts, and the former is almost always a short-term boost. They could cut the price, but Sony could easily answer back with a cut of their own. I suspect that the PS4 and Kinect-less XBO will retain price parity this whole generation. As for games, Halo is by far their biggest IP, but that alone will not provide the long-term boost they need. Their first-party lineup has always been relatively sparse, relying mainly on third parties for exclusives, but after Titanfall not being the massive juggernaut it was hyped up to be, I think third parties will be more apprehensive about neglecting the PS4, especially considering that the PS4 is dominating in terms of global sales.

As for Sega, unlike MS they are solely a gaming company. They were hurt big time by the Saturn, which was one of the biggest blunders in gaming history. While the Dreamcast had a decent start, the damage was already done and Sega was forced to withdraw from the console hardware business. After taking a huge loss on the Saturn and without the revenue from hardware, it's no wonder that Sega isn't exactly the second-biggest game company around these days. They still to quite well for themselves these days, though, and between console games, arcade games, and other amusement devices (e.g., pachinko & pachislot) they make damn good money.

Meanwhile, MS isn't strictly a gaming company. They don't need Xbox. They don't even need Halo. They get most of their profits from Windows, Office, and other PC software. From a strictly money-making point of view, they'd be better off focusing on software. Hardware has never been profitable for them, and Xbox is completely expendable. But a single Halo game can net them an over $100 million profit within 24 hours of launch.

Tony Mac II
Tony Mac II

@Jason Goodman @Jeremiah Greenawalt It's too early in the New Generation to make that call. Everyone thought Apple was down & out until the Iphone released. Same with gaming--who knows? Though Japanese DO have a good track record for games, technology & cars(not many people trust cars made in the US even until this date!) But it's really too early to tell.

Tony Mac II
Tony Mac II

@meme notu @Dan Thane Newsflash! Sony's E3 boasted that they were going full force with Cloud Gaming with Play Station Now. 


It's funny how you bash Microsoft's Cloud Azure, when Sony just boasted about Cloud Gaming they want to spread--through the PS4, some Sony Tv's & with their Roku-like device with has Sony Cloud Gaming.

Dan Thane
Dan Thane

@meme notu @Dan Thane I didnt want to write an essay so i left some things out. Bottom line the biggest thing holding MS back with Xbox sales is its pretty bare library. By November this shouldn't be much of an issue.

About the push for cloud based gaming (which in the right usage is not even a bad thing) and the push to remove ownership rights...Microsoft listened to the consumer and opted to not go in that direction. We don't have a strictly online system. Those features never saw the light of day. 


And subpar hardware?...you do realize the PS4 and X-One have virtually the same specs right ? albiet the edge by a thin margin goes to PS4 but the specs are near identical

Jason Goodman
Jason Goodman

@Tony Mac II You're not that familiar with the history of gaming, are you? Yes, it's still early in the generation, and making exact numerical predictions of long-term sales with any degree of confidence is nigh-impossible, but there is plenty of historical precedent with which to make reasonable predictions of relative future success of a particular system, in this case the XBO. If you understood the European market, you'd know that MS had to get the 360 to 60% of the PS3's price before it started doing well. With investors already breathing down MS's neck, I doubt they'll cut into the XBO's profitability by slashing it to €240 in the region this soon, and besides, Sony will be able to answer back with a cut of their own. The 360 already had a sizable price advantage already over the PS3, which widened rapidly in 2007 & 2008. The XBO will never have a price advantage like that. The PS4 is outselling the XBO by a 3:1 ratio in France and Germany, which are fairly representative of continental Europe as a whole. There has never been a case where a gap this big was closed, not once in the history of gaming. The conditions of the current generation are not like those of last generation. The PS4 has nothing to hobble growth like the PS3 did, being neither overpriced nor lacking a strong online service, plus it typically has better ports of multiplats. It is a sales juggernaut in Europe. There is no way for the XBO to grow at a fast enough rate to narrow the gap any in Europe. The continent is lost to MS. It's not even close. It's already a slaughter. Only in the UK can the XBO hope to achieve a modicum of success in the region.


As for Japan, you do realize that the 360 sold only about 1.6 million units to date, right? That's only about 6% of the total sales of all seventh-gen platforms in the country. The vast majority Japanese gamers only care about Japanese games and Japanese systems. Xbox is not a major sales presence in the country, nor are Western games in general. If you look at a list of best-selling PS3 and 360 games in Japan, you'll see it dominated by Japanese games. Series that dominate software sales lists in the West like GTA and COD are only moderately successful in Japan, and most other Western games barely make a blip. The XBO will share the same fate as its predecessors in Japan. I will say without a doubt that it is categorically impossible for Xbox to ever be a major sales force in Japan.


One only has to look at history and how things like pricing, games, and regional differences in sales to see that the XBO will not be anywhere near as successful as the 360 and that it will place a very distant second in terms of global sales.

Kris Stevenson
Kris Stevenson

@Dan Thane  "a thin margin goes to PS4 but the specs are near identical"


GDDR5 against a DDR3 isn't a "thin margin" lol. And you forgot about the Xbox's horrible ESRAM bottleneck lol.

Wade  Wilson
Wade Wilson

@Kris Stevenson @Dan Thane You can always spot the people who don't have a clue what they're talking about when it comes to specs or tech, because they aren't near identical, the PS4 clearly has a good margin over the Xbox one in the tech itself

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