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		<title>Amazon CFO Tom Szkutak takes the fifth on just about every important question</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Koetsier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Amazon earnings are out and the company grew revenue but shrunk profits -- a very Amazonian talent. So investors and analysts piled on the earnings conference call to get the scoop on how and why. Only, CFO Tom Szkutak wasn't really there to answer&#160;questions.</p>
<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=venturebeat.com&#038;blog=342986&#038;post=612831&#038;subd=venturebeat&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/29/amazon-cfo-tom-szkutak-takes-the-fifth-on-just-about-every-important-question/origin_5166743160/" rel="attachment wp-att-612855"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-612855" alt="origin_5166743160" src="http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/origin_5166743160.jpg?w=1024&#038;h=896" width="1024" height="896" /></a>Amazon earnings are out and the <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/29/amzn-q4-2012-amazons-fourth-quarter-earnings-in-60-seconds-or-less/">company grew revenue but shrunk profits</a> &#8212; a very Amazonian talent. So investors and analysts &#8212; <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/29/amazon-shares-up-11-in-after-hours-trading-as-multi-billion-dollar-ebooks-category-growing-at-70-annually/">who did not, surprisingly, punish the stock</a> &#8212; piled on the earnings conference call to get the scoop on how and why.</p>
<p>Only, CFO Tom Szkutak wasn&#8217;t really there to answer questions.</p>
<p><strong>Is Kindle profitable?</strong></p>
<p>What are attach rates on Kindle, an analyst asked, wondering if Amazon was selling covers or bags, as well as digital content to fill up the Android-based tablets. After all, if Kindles are being sold at a loss, Amazon <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/16/kindle-fire-if-each-amazon-tablet-generates-3month-in-digital-sales-thats-20-profit/">needs to sell digital revenue</a> to replace the missing dollars.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have a multi-billion-dollar ebook business,&#8221; answered Szkutak in part, parroting the already-available press release. But he did add very helpfully that Amazon is &#8220;seeing good progress &#8230; but I can&#8217;t give specific numbers &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Later in the call, when another analyst requested data on how Kindle is impacting Amazon&#8217;s overall gross margins, Szkutak simply refused to answer.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s up with Amazon Prime?</strong></p>
<p>How is Amazon Prime doing, asked another analyst, seeking substantive information about Amazon&#8217;s &#8220;free&#8221; two-day shipping program, which costs $79 a year and also allows access to streaming movies and TV shows.</p>
<p>&#8220;The percentage of Prime customers has gone up,&#8221; Szkutak responded, vaguely. &#8220;We&#8217;ve launched a number of new services on the music side &#8230; the business is making good progress, but it&#8217;s still very early.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>How much does Amazon make from advertising?</strong></p>
<p>Amazon seems to have buried Amazon Web Services revenue in a &#8220;Supplemental Revenue &#8211; Other&#8221; category, which includes Advertising Services and Co-branded Credit Cards &#8230; all of which makes perfect sense, of course. Credit cards and the cloud, side by side at last!</p>
<p>So an analyst asked how much Amazon made from advertising &#8212; an interesting question, because some product pages on Amazon&#8217;s site carry third-party advertising.</p>
<p>&#8220;Amazon Web Services revenue is growing very fast,&#8221; Szkutak replied, obliquely. &#8220;Some marketing services … is part of that revenue category.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would also be interesting to know precisely how fast AWS is growing, but unfortunately Amazon has obscured that number by including co-branded credit cards in the same revenue category. This couldn&#8217;t be intentional, could it?</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s up with LivingSocial?</strong></p>
<p>Amazon has been slowly reducing its investment in LivingSocial, another analyst mentioned. Would that continue, and what are Amazon&#8217;s plans with regard to daily deals?</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s not a lot I can specifically talk about as it relates to LivingSocial,&#8221; Szkutak unsurprisingly said. &#8220;But local is an interesting opportunity … a long-term opportunity,&#8221; he mentioned. Then in a weak moment of helpful clarification, he added that &#8220;we think about it over a long-term horizon.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Really?</strong></p>
<p>I mean, I&#8217;m aware that companies want to release only the information that puts them in the best possible light. And I&#8217;m aware that companies don&#8217;t want to release information that will be of competitive value rival firms. But as a public company, it&#8217;d be nice to see a little more openness from the largest online retailer in the Americas.</p>
<p>And guess what: if you&#8217;re an Amazon investor, it&#8217;s kind of critical to know how much the company is sinking into providing Kindle devices <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/19/amazon-sells-the-kindle-fire-at-a-loss-because-it-makes-so-much-money-on-media/">at or below cost</a>, and how it intends to <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/16/kindle-fire-if-each-amazon-tablet-generates-3month-in-digital-sales-thats-20-profit/">recoup the cash</a>. It&#8217;s material to how you view the stock, and how you value it.</p>
<p>Note to self: skip the next Amazon earnings call.</p>
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