Stop chatting! Facebook shuts up IM integration with Meebo

Instant message aggregator Meebo integrated MySpace’s and Facebook’s chat services last month. It let Meebo users chat with friends on either network from within its own site. Now Facebook is making Meebo turn its connection off, at least until the integration complies with Facebook’s terms.

Facebook has typically wanted close control over what third parties do with its user data, though that doesn’t appear to be the issue here. Instead, it’s apparently a security issue involving third-party software that Meebo used to implement Facebook chat. Both MySpace and Facebook offer their own chat services that turn your friends on the sites into IM contacts. While MySpace and Meebo worked together on this new feature, Meebo figured out how to integrate with Facebook’s IM protocol by itself. It didn’t work with Facebook beforehand.

This isn’t the first time Facebook has restricted a third-party that accessed its user data without its permission, though in this instance the issue isn’t data. Most recently, Facebook sued Power.com, a social network aggregator, because the site collected Facebook usernames and passwords among other things. That suit may be wrapping up. A year ago, social contact manager Plaxo scraped Facebook for emails — and got shut down. Even Google attempted to collect Facebook user data last spring for a service called Friend Connect, then suffered a takedown.

But as I wrote last month, there is some precedent for Facebook to not shut this chat service down.

So maybe Facebook will cut off Meebo from accessing its IM service? Or maybe not. Social.IM, a startup recently acquired by iSkoot, has already integrated Facebook IM together with other IM services in a desktop app — and it’s still functional. Social.IM’s service has you login directly to Facebook, and it doesn’t store your Facebook data. Desktop IM aggregator Adium and Meebo rival eBuddy’s mobile service also includes Facebook chat integration.

The Meebo company statement below, indicates that Facebook may be returning to Meebo at some point.

Hi Meebo,

Got some bad news. :(

As a bunch of you already know (because you’ve been using it), we recently added Facebook Chat into Meebo.

We have been speaking to the Facebook team, and it turns out, they’d like us to connect to their network in a different way. In the interim, they asked us take Facebook off Meebo, and we said “okay.”

However, we were glad to hear that the Facebook team was genuinely excited to see their network on Meebo, especially since they already have plans to open Facebook Chat. They also committed resources from their Chat and Facebook Connect teams to do extra work with us to get Facebook Chat back on Meebo “really, really soon.”

Work began this week, so stay tuned. We expect some all nighters on both sides!

Seth

P.S. Meebo grew in December. We reached close to 45 million people, a new record, including 2.5 million via Meebo Community IM. So it’s not all bad news… :)

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  • DBS
    Perhaps Facebook should concentrate on making its chat less crappy, by adding standard features such as blocking certain users, saving past conversations after a user logs out, and an invisible mode.
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    Never forget that MySpace and Facebook are fierce competitors and with recent news showing that Facebook is beating MySpace in new users, it is about to get ugly.

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  • Well, At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content. Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.
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    Facebook in a legal squable yet again. This time with Meebo. I guess when you're that successful, problems are bound to come up.

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  • I understand where Facebook is coming from, after all, Meebo did go behind Facebook's back to get the data. I still think that Facebook should work with Meebo though, because having all social network IM's in one place would be beneficial to the user experience.
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  • Facebook does not want to lose its people over to meebo..
  • Meebo just wants to make use of facebook to increase its community size.. what a ripoff!
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  • Why would facebook want to do this sort of thing? Seems a little counter-productive.
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  • I dislike facebook, In my opinion there are too many advertisements. Their chat is crappy and there are too many automated emails ie.spam
  • Not surprised, they're obviously not playing by FB's rules so they don't get to play at all...for now anyway.

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  • I use facebook and befoer I used Bebo, I think both are great
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    This seems like less of a security issue and more of a control issue, since Facebook wants to keep control over the platform people use to access their services.

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    Meebo have its use so do facebook so theres no need for any rivalry.
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  • Yea you're right and also the main reason people are using meebo is because sometimes they can't open FB website in their office because of the proxy restriction rules, if they can still chat via meebo I think that will be a good thing for FB.

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