Capital Factory’s Joshua Baer on incubating startups in Austin

Silicon Valley may have the most established and well-known startup incubator in the form of Y Combinator, but other areas are joining in, with TechStars in Boulder, Colo., Launchbox Digital in Washington, D.C., and Start@Spark in Boston, Mass. — and Austin, Texas is getting into the game with Capital Factory.

Applications are now open for its first batch of startups; the firm says it will be selecting 10 finalists, then narrowing the list down to the winners in mid-April. Those winning startups will receive $20,000 in cash, $20,000 worth of “free stuff” such as IT infrastructure and hosting, and access to 20 mentors including serial entrepreneurs, investors, and attorneys. Since the application deadline is little more than a week away (11:59pm Pacific on April 3), I thought I’d email co-founder and co-managing director Joshua Baer a few questions about the program. (Baer is also the founder and chief executive at email organization startup OtherInbox).

VB: Can you talk about why you decided to create Capital Factory? What need is it serving?

JB: First-time entrepreneurs want to ask questions of successful entrepreneurs. Successful entrepreneurs like investing in young entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs of all kinds thrive on each other’s passion. At its core, we’re doing this because we think it will be really fun and rewarding for everyone involved.

Gaps have formed in the traditional funding path for early-stage companies. Many venture capitalists are moving towards bigger funds that invest larger amounts of money in lower risk companies that have already proven their model. Angel investors are banding together into syndicates that look more and more like venture capitalists. We think we can help to fill some of those gaps and then introduce companies to angel investor groups or venture capitalists at the right time.

VB: What kinds of startups are you interested in backing?

JB: Most importantly we want to get involved with companies that we can have the biggest impact on. After all, it’s not really about the $20,000; it’s about the 20 mentors who are going to spend time with the companies and help them to focus on the right priorities and with key introductions to customers, partners, employees and investors. If someone submitted a great company idea but none of us had any real value add beyond the money, we’d probably pass on the deal and select another company that we thought could really benefit from our advice and relationships.

We like lean companies that can get to profitability quickly and can scale rapidly. Most of us have technology backgrounds, and while it is not a requirement, it is very likely that the companies we select will have technology components to them. We’re happy to start with just an idea on a napkin, but we’ll also work with companies that have some customers or angel investors and are now ready to scale their business.

VB: What can you learn from Y Combinator? How do you think you’re doing it better?

JB: We learn as much as we can from other startup programs and everyone we have talked to has been extremely helpful and supportive of each other. Paul Graham [of Y Combinator] set a great example by putting his documents and terms out for everyone to see and use if they want to, and we plan on doing the same.

We don’t think of the different startup programs as better or worse than each other. Some have been doing it for a few years, and others are brand new. If you are an entrepreneur starting a new company and want this kind of support, you probably should apply to a bunch of programs, see which ones you get accepted into, and select the one that has the mentors who you think can help your business the most.

VB: How do your think your strategy is influenced by being based in Austin?

JB: Austin is a great place to start a company, a great place to have fun, a great place to raise a family, and is extremely well positioned for the tough economic times facing our nation.

Austin has an incredible labor pool created by the University of Texas, the state government, and all of the technology companies that are based here. We have an amazing lifestyle with live music, film and tons of outdoor activities. People are moving here from California because they want to own a home and make each dollar go a lot farther. One of the youngest cities with one of the strongest economies, Austin is a place where great new things are starting up every day.

VB: And how has the broader economic climate affected your plans?

JB: Now is probably the best time in the past decade to be doing a startup and to be investing in startups. Most people look at the current economic condition and see the losses they have from last year. If you are starting from scratch then you haven’t lost anything, and there is nowhere to go but up. During times like these, labor and supplier costs are lower, there is less competition, and all budgets are being re-examined. People are open to new ways of doing things that will help them to reduce costs or find customers.

With the growth of cloud computing and open source software, the capital requirements of starting new technology companies is dropping rapidly and heading towards free. Traditional barriers to entry are being abolished and companies are being started on credit cards and then bootstrapped to profitability.

VB: Can you talk a little bit about choosing the mentors?

JB: There were a few criteria in selecting the mentors. To start with, we wanted to make sure it was an impressive list of successful entrepreneurs who had started and sold one or more businesses. We also wanted a diverse group that spanned multiple industries as well as all of the different critical functions of operating a company. Of course, everyone had to share a common spirit of giving back to the entrepreneurial community and enjoying the mentoring process.

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  • Ken Glanton
    Should also mention the Innovation Depot in Birmingham, AL. I believe they are working with 55 or so companies, with 350 employees. Much needed resource for innovation in Alabama.
  • elliottdahan
    Old school Angels and Angel groups have morphed into the current crop of Vanity/Visibility crop Angel Funds which are wonderfully in tune with the times – they are both dispenser of lunch money and Reality Show.

    The first sign that something is wrong is when the Fund and its Founders/Partners are a lot more visible and noteworthy than any of their portfolio companies.

    The second sign is when media shills talk about the abundant “value” of these Angel Funds because they can introduce you to folks. From a March 16th article by Michael Arrington in TechCruch about Y Combinator – “Y Combinator startups get a big head start in the competitive tech world. The founders, often just out of school (or still in school), get enough money to pay the bills for a few months as they work on their projects. They also get mentoring and polish from the Y Combinator team and a chance to present to prominent angel investors and venture capitalists at twice-yearly demo days”.

    I have a problem with Arrington’s use of : “big head start”; mentoring and polish from the Y Combinator team”; and “chance to present to prominent Angels”

    The third sign is when the 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 guys in the Angel Fund say that they will provide true mentoring to the 50 – 60 – 70 lunch money investments they have in their portfolio.

    The fourth sign is the level of fixed % of the company taken for this lunch money. The fact that there is a fixed percentage assigned during this lunch money stage is wrong to begin with. The lunch money investment should somehow be tied to the value of the Series A (with a snappy discount & accrued interest).

    The fifth sign is when old line VC firms throw some money at these Angel Funds (Sequoia / Y Combinator and Spark / TechStars) and then have the Angel Funds scour a geographic region (Silicon Valley, Boston, New York) for portfolio companies.

    What is needed is a Public-Private For Profit dedicated effort to work with, support and compensate the Seed Infrastructure (Incubators, Economic Development Agencies, Tech Transfers). The "public" component is the existing Seed Infrastructure. The "private" component is the for-profit START Fund.

    This infrastructure already exists and provides the efficient sourcing, screening and post-investment oversight needed to develop Series A worthy companies. What is needed is a dedicated effort that is not geographically constrained. What is needed is a thorough Virtual Incubation system that brings both Community and Collaboration to all elements of the total Investing community.

    By dedicating a private/public collaboration to increasing the value and viability of early stage companies you are also increasing their valuation for their Series A round; thereby leveling the playing field with what will be a smaller group of Traditional VC funds.


    Please review - http://www.slideshare.net/ElliottDahan/start-fu...

    Elliott Dahan
    elliott(a)thegrowthgroup.com

    Elliott Dahan
  • Elliott,

    Your comments are insightful, and I think public/private partnerships can be great, but we don't have one of those in Austin, Texas and your points don't really relate to Capital Factory.

    Sign #1 is off the mark because we don't have any portfolio companies yet, it's our first year. When we do have successes, I'm pretty sure we will promote them loudly. Regarding Sign #3, we will have 3 companies in our first year, not 50-70. Sign #4 assumes we desire some sort of venture-level Series A, which is a bad assumption. We don't have any VC money, so Sign #5 isn't really relevant either.

    While I philosophically agree with the challenges of early stage programs that you pointed out, none of them seem to relate to Capital Factory. It seems like you had a rant stored in your copy buffer that you were ready to paste, and needed a convenient spot.

    The venture model is broken, $500K is definitely the new $5M, and none of this is news to anybody. The early stage funding models are trying to fill a void to support entrepreneurship, which drives our economy. The only certainty is that even this will change and evolve.
  • elliottdahan
    Bryan -

    My Sign #1 and Sign #3 refer more to Y Combinator. But, as any Angel Incubator grows, I am sure that Angel Incubator will add more portfolio companies.

    Sign #4 - Venture level Series A - I am assuming that $10K-$15K-$20K . . . . will not take a seed company to profitability. I could very easily be wrong when talking about iphone apps and other Web 2.0 type products. Therefore, companies will need to raise an A round or M&A or take corporate investment down the road.

    Your comment - "While I philosophically agree with the challenges of early stage programs that you pointed out, none of them seem to relate to Capital Factory. It seems like you had a rant stored in your copy buffer that you were ready to paste, and needed a convenient spot." . . . kind of a shame - just when you were responding with measured and civil comments.

    BTW - The Austin area does have several excellent incubators (ATI & Clean Energy). Joel Serface was the Director of the Austin Clean Incubator before being recruited by Kleiner, Perkins to be a VC in their CleanEnergy practice.

    Elliott
  • Elliott,

    I was just at the ATI today, strangely enough. I consider them to be a little different since they don't grant small amounts to early stage companies, and their commitment to their companies is more open-ended.

    The ATI folks are seeing the changing landscape as well, and trying to adapt quickly. They currently sublease space to an incubator inside the incubator (named Tech Ranch). How crazy is that? Sometimes you just have to try things out and see where it leads.

    We see the ATI (or Tech Ranch) as a potential next step for companies after the Capital Factory program. While we work closely with them, I don't see them exactly fitting the type of public/private partnership you describe. But who knows what the future will hold.

    $20K will probably not take most companies to profitability, but a $100K - $250K angel round might, and I wouldn't consider that a traditional A round.

    Like most things these days, I don't think we'll ever "get it right" but will constantly iterate, just like we preach to our entrepreneurs.
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