Facebook to test payments system with developers “in a few weeks”

Developers may be making tens of millions of dollars through games and virtual goods on Facebook’s platform, but the social network itself hasn’t had a way to get a share of that money. This may be about to change, as it plans to begin testing a payments system with developers in several weeks, according to industry sources. This product has been described to me as involving some sort of system that can use real money. A source close to Facebook confirms the timeline for the test, saying that it will be a “small, alpha test” and adding that details of what the test product will include are still being worked out.

It could end up being pretty big. Facebook could potentially offer a universal currency for Facebook applications, as well as other sites on the web that use Facebook data, making a single trusted payment method that users and developers would feel comfortable using for anything from virtual goods purchases to actual products. This could benefit developers, as Facebook users would only have to enter payment information a single time (when they give it to Facebook), making a purchase a matter of just a single click (like how buying a song on iTunes works, for example). Facebook, in turn, could take a cut of every transaction.

Getting even a fraction the revenue of the virtual goods market on the platform could make a significant impact on the company’s financial numbers. A number of leading companies on the platform have previously estimated that developers could gross up to $500 million revenue, mostly from virtual goods built into a wide range of games. These games range from virtual poker applications like Texas Hold ‘Em to quizzes like Who Has a Bigger Brain and mafia role-playing games like Mob Wars. Of course, Facebook itself could be making up to that amount this year, based on a revenue run-rate that it disclosed in April — but that’s mostly from advertising.

Facebook hasn’t seemed focused on offering anything like a payments systems, beyond a virtual gifts store that it launched in February of 2007. It did say that it was looking at offering a payments system for developers, when it launched its developer platform that May. And, at the end of that year, it began asking for input from developers. In 2008, the company hasn’t done much on this front, or so it has seemed — one source tells me that the project has never died, based on conversations with Facebook engineers. Meanwhile, beginning early last year, developers began to see their virtual goods revenues rise. This year, sources say, third-party virtual currency providers including Jambool and Twofish have talked to Facebook about working with it on its current effort.

Those old plans are coming to life

Jambool could be a potential partner, as it has put off a planned funding round while it finalizes a deal with a “major social network,” according to one source.

And, intriguingly, Facebook put an experimental form of virtual currency into testing last month. Called “credits,” the product let users give these virtual points to each other for things such as shared items that they particularly enjoyed. Credits were also tied into the gift store: You use credits to buy virtual gifts, and you could buy more credits (if your friends weren’t already giving you many).

What’s not clear is how credits might fit into the test rolling out to developers in a few weeks. I’ve also been hearing rumors that the credits test is going to be killed — Facebook denied this when I asked — so perhaps credits will become something more than it is now.

Meanwhile, other social networks have been getting into the action. Hi5 rolled out its own currency last December. MySpace has also been looking at a sort of payments system for virtual goods, but hasn’t come out with anything yet. However, I’ve recently heard that it also has something big planned on that front for the near future. What’s also not clear is how whatever Facebook offers for developers will compete with the range of the range of payment options that are already in use on the platform, including those from PayPal, Zong, Mobillcash and others.

Still, a single virtual currency has been a top feature request of developers ever since the platform launched. Facebook, like its rivals, appears to be making the right move.

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Eric currently covers digital media technology and business news, especially what's happening on social networks and their platforms. He also writes and edits stories about venture capital, and lots of other stuff, too. He started at VentureBeat in the spring of 2007, half a year or so after Matt Marshall left his reporting job at the San Jose Mercury News to found the site. Eric previously cofounded a startup called Writewith, that was building editorial software for newspapers and other groups of writers. The startup didn't work out, but he learned a lot.

  • wow, no comments?

    jesus this is arguably the best piece on this topic in months, and not even any haterz around.

    nice job eric. now just need to go get some comment trolls from TC to spice this up ;)

    (seriously: great story)
  • Here ya go Dave:

    This is exactly the right move. The money isn't in minting the currency as much as it is running the economy and facilitating the creation of economies. There will be a tax structure, fees, and other tolls that will draw from sources for transactions.

    The legal notions of estates, assets, and where virtual currency comes into play will be something the smart folks will need to consider. A living Facebook Will would be a great extension on this if non-repudiation or other PKI enabled constructs were applied to tie back to SSN/FEIN, etc...

    in real life see also: http://www.berkshares.org/
  • Thanks for the kind words, Dave. And thanks for the funny comment, Jay.
  • Keep on rockin'
  • i 've always wondered how you guys manage to keep the trolls away (my guess is that keeping it cool with twitter+oprah does it)
  • Agreed. Great story. I'm surprised i missed it earlier. The interesting opportunity here IMHO is a unified social-networked micro currency. Currency that allows for payments in and outside of facebook for microtransactions with FBconnect.

    Finally I can get paid for all these comments I'm plastering all over the interwebs.

    Tip please? =)
  • I'll tip you once you pay me for writing the article, Albert ;)
  • Nice - been waiting for this for awhile...

    Hope it is promoted / marketed so that users begin to trust the ability for financial transactions to be done on the FB platform, also for transactions that are simply not micro-purchases.

    Bouncing out to third party systems like paypal / etc and the whole "I don't trust FB with my credit card" is a struggle sometimes when trying to move real money to buy goods across the platform.
  • NUNYA
    I for one do not trust facebook with even true personal info.The guy that started it is an Extreme Partisan Hack and is an incredibly intolerant hypocrite!! I tell everyone do not put anything on FACEBOOK you don't mind them keepingThey already tried to keep personal info once people close their accounts and then "change"d their minds because of the protestsThet thing peope forget is once they convince more and more people to joing and say no we won't do that again,all it takes is them to "change" their minds again and do with your info what they want. Already in tight with the new Govment it is not hard to believe they wil hand over any info that thier Big Brother buddy wants in the future Fukk them =)p
  • Yep,

    But you do trust the guys who made your credit card, who own all of your personal info, right? While it is true that facebook has had several blunders with privacy, you know what, your personal data are not as valuable as you think; social advertising is still less profitable than search-based advertising - they still struggle to make money.
  • John O'brien - seconded.

    Great post here, but who is leading the charge in providing an alternative payment system to paypal or google for real goods? and reducing the hefty transaction fees? noca.com has been working on it, but slowly. I am particularly interested in how opensocial, facebook connect and oAuth (twitter login) begin to play a role in ecommerce systems - and vice versa - any recommend current posts, tweets, articles on that front?

    Jay, Eric - great meeting you guys at SXSWi.

    -Andrew
    @andrewkorf
  • I guess this is truly going to prove beneficial not just for Facebook but for the countless developers leveraging the social network platform. As always, Eric has hit the keys with a pretty detailed and informative post.

    There is always a need for a universal currency and the web is not exception.
  • This is something for WSJ to have a look at. Creating separate accounts for things is always a hurdle. But if paying for a news item is just one click away with my Facebook account, I would most likely click if I want to read something interesting.
  • This is not the first time they 've announced it,but i hope this time they mean it. it is a win-win situation for both facebook and developers. a quarter-of-a-billion market awaits ... what are they waiting for?
  • Really nice! Maybe you can change then your mybonuz points to facebook points...
  • Whatever Face Book, My Space or Twitter come up with I think it's fairly obvious to state that they should have a reward system in place, whereby they donate a percentage of all combined credits into one charity pool. It's kind of like scraping some of the credits off users, but you would have to stipulate this in your TOS? As the economy worsen, just imagine the good you'll all be doing your local communities and aid agencies around the globe.
  • If you make a payment system, let your users become aware of the 'Tax System' and allow a percentage to be donated into a 'POOL' whereby you can run "votes" for which charity is to be nominated say, for each month's tally. If you do something like this, you will instantly engage your users to become more interactive and if they can see that their efforts are contributing towards good, it might create a chain-reaction across the board. I'm not sure but where monetization enters the arena I think the FCC in America want some form of regulatory control and if you openly declare the taxation requirements to user's, it might help the whole process run more smoothly.