This week, Travis and Stewart interview Jessy Hanley, who knows a thing or two (well, more like a few thousand things) about apps, games, and how to unlock the secrets of success.

They also discuss the latest Instagram features, which look to further copy Snapchat and take on the likes of Periscope and Facebook Live. Will Instagram win, or are we headed toward a livestreaming future that no one company will dominate? The dynamic duo put their futurist brains to the test as they try to work out what will happen next.

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    See you next week with Episode 31, where we have our first interview of the Web Summit series.  If you missed last week’s episode with Seth Besmertnik, CEO of Conductor, you can listen to it right here.